<span>---------- Forwarded message ----------</span><br><span>From: Richard Fobes <ElectionMethods@VoteFair.org></span><br><span>To: <a href="mailto:election-methods@electorama.com" target="_blank">election-methods@electorama.com</a></span><br>
<span>Cc: </span><br><span>Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 23:26:59 -0800</span><br><span>Subject: [EM] Electoral experimentation</span><br>
<span>On 12/14/2011 12:59 PM, David L Wetzell wrote:</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote">if we push hard for the use of American Proportional Representation<br>it'll give third parties a better chance to win seats and they will<br>
prove great labs for experimentation with electoral reform.<br><br>This is also a good reason to strategically support IRV, since we can<br>trust that with changes, there'll be more scope for experimentation and<br>consideration of multiple alternatives to FPTP.<br>
<br>dlw<br></blockquote><br><span>I doubt that electoral experimentation would follow the adoption of any new election method.</span><br><br><span>Why? Consider that elected representatives tend to defend whatever election method they got elected under. So if "American Proportional Representation" -- or any other method -- were used by a third party to elect its leaders, the elected representatives would be unlikely to support experimenting with other election methods.</span><div>
<br></div><div>dlw: Within the third parties themselves, there'd need to be used single-winner elections to determine their candidates/leaders/positions. In these regards, there'd be great scope for experimentation with single-winner election rules, especially since they'd have no commitment to a particular single-winner election rule. <br>
<br><span>It's analogous to a door to a treasure room that gets closed and locked after the first people pass through. People who gain access to power naturally want to preserve whatever electoral system got them elected.</span></div>
<div><br></div><div>dlw: Third parties (in a 2 party dominated system) aren't so much about getting into power as making democracy work, turning over the center....<br>
<br><span>Richard Fobes</span>
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