<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Comparing these two is a waste of time. EACH has demonstrated weaknesses that should have us working together on moving ahead. Where to go?<div><br></div><div>Condorcet lets voters vote much as they are promised for IRV. It lets voters vote for those they most like, ranking their votes to show which they most desire - write-ins and equal ranking for two or more candidates are permitted. The counting shows for each pair of candidates which is more liked by the voters, and uses this in deciding on the winner - the counting matrix can also help humans compare strength of candidates. Often there is a CW that wins in everyone of its pairs; else the cycle of those most liked is analyzed to choose a winner.</div><div><br></div><div>Range/score also permits voting for multiple candidates. Its ratings permit varying strength of approval among rated candidates - both more power and more complexity than Condorcet.</div><div><br></div><div>Bucklin is another ranking method - perhaps a bit more complex than Condorcet.</div><div><br></div><div>Other methods are possible - takes analysis to look for the best.</div><div><br></div><div>Dave Ketchum</div><div><br><div><div>On Jan 8, 2010, at 9:23 AM, Stéphane Rouillon wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 34px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><div class="hmmessage" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana; ">> Therefore IRV/STV is no better than plurality, but has extra very<br>> serious flaws, inequities, and vagaries that plurality does not have.<br><br>I definitively disagree. Plurality is worst than IRV.<br>The flaws that IRV does have are real.<br>But these problems appear very less often than the splitting-vote issue of FPTP.</div></span></blockquote></div></div></body></html>