<html><head><style type="text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style></head><body><div style="font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><DIV>Dave,<BR>Are you really comfortable supporting and supplying ammunition to a </DIV>
<DIV>group of avowed FPP supporters in their effort to have IRV declared</DIV>
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<DIV><BR>Will have any complaint when in future they are trying to do the same</DIV>
<DIV>thing to some Condorcet method you like and IRV supporters help<BR>them on grounds like it fails Later-no-Harm, Later-no-Help, and <BR>probably mono-add-top?</DIV>
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<DIV><BR>Dave Ketchum wrote (Fri.Nov.7):</DIV>
<DIV>Perhaps this could get some useful muscle by adding such as:<BR> 9 B>A<BR><BR>Now we have 34 voting B>A. Enough that they can expect to win and may have <BR>as strong a preference between these two as might happen anywhere.<BR><BR>C and D represent issues many feel strongly about - and can want to assert <BR>to encourage action by B, the expected winner. If ONE voter had voted B>A <BR>rather than D>B>A, IRV would have declared B the winner.<BR><BR>Note that Condorcet would have declared B the winner any time the B>A count <BR>exceeded the A>B count (unless C or D got many more votes).<BR><BR>DWK<BR><BR>On Fri, 7 Nov 2008 14:05:03 -0700 Kathy Dopp wrote:<BR>><I> Dave,<BR></I>><I> <BR></I>><I> I agree with you -that is important too, but the attorneys and<BR></I>><I> judge(s) have their own criteria for judging importance as compared to<BR></I>><I> existing
laws.<BR></I>><I> <BR></I>><I> Your example IMO does show unequal treatment of voters, so perhaps<BR></I>><I> I'll include it as one of many ways to show how IRV unequally treats<BR></I>><I> voters and see if the attorneys use it or not.<BR></I>><I> <BR></I>><I> Thanks.<BR></I>><I> <BR></I>><I> Kathy</I></DIV>
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