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<div>Just forwarding my reply:<br>
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> --- In RangeVoting@yahoogroups.<span class="correction" id="">com</span>, "Jan Kok" <<span class="correction" id="">jan</span>.kok.5y@> wrote:<br>
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> > 1. Different strategy calculations by voters under the two systems.<br>
> > Voters who like a "third party" candidate seem more willing to vote<br>
> > for their favorite in the first round of <span class="correction" id="">TTR</span>, than corresponding<br>
> > voters under <span class="correction" id="">IRV</span> are willing to rank their favorite 1st. Why, why?!?<br>
> > Most <span class="correction" id="">IRV</span> supporters in the US have no clue that voting their favorite<br>
> > 1st can ever hurt them. <br>
> <br>
There was an <span class="correction" id="">arguement</span> that top 2 run-off is easier to understand, so<br>
voters are more capable of using the system to get their desired<br>
candidate.<br>
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In <span class="correction" id="">IRV</span> elections, I assume <span class="correction" id="">pollsters</span> still ask "who is your first<br>
choice?", so voters should be able to use the same strategy.<br>
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> <br>
> > From my limited discussions with Australians,<br>
> > it seems most of them have no idea either. So why aren't Australians<br>
> > voting for third party candidates as their first choices, enough that<br>
> > they might occasionally win? While at the same time, voters in <span class="correction" id="">TTR</span><br>
> > countries feel free to vote for whoever they want, often enough that<br>
> > <span class="correction" id="">TTR</span> countries tend to have flourishing <span class="correction" id="">multiparty</span> systems?<br>
> > <br>
> <br>
Is there any country that uses <span class="correction" id="">condorcet</span> as an election method for a<br>
single office like the President ?<br>
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A <span class="correction" id="">centerist</span>/compromise candidate should win the office when there is<br>
one office with considerable power. However, this maintain stability<br>
of what faction the candidate comes from.<br>
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In the 3 candidate case, <span class="correction" id="">IRV</span> and top 2 run-off are identical in<br>
theory. However, when there is 4 or more candidates, they are<br>
different. If there are enough candidates, it goes (semi) random. <br>
Most of the horror file for top 2 run-off is that the (probable)<br>
<span class="correction" id="">condorcet</span> winner doesn't make it past the first round. <br>
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Also, the more candidates there are running the more incentive there<br>
is for smaller parties to run a candidate, so more candidates run. <br>
(This is balanced by not splitting the vote to much)<br>
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I think that some of top 2 <span class="correction" id="">run-off's</span> multi-party credentials come from<br>
the fact that it is <span class="correction" id="">sorta</span> a cross between condorcet and random ballot.<br>
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<div style="clear: both;"><span class="correction" id="">Raphfrk</span><br>
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Interesting site<br>
"what if anyone could modify the laws"<br>
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<span class="correction" id="">www</span>.<span class="correction" id="">wikocracy</span>.<span class="correction" id="">com</span></div>
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