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<div> Dharma wrote:<br>
> > <span class="correction" id="">raphfrk</span> at <span class="correction" id="">netscape</span>.net [<span class="correction" id="">mailto</span>:<span class="correction" id="">raphfrk</span> at <span class="correction" id="">netscape</span>.net]<br>
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> Dharma (subscribed lists) wrote:<br>
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> > What are the views on this sort of electoral system - is it proportional<br>
> > representation or disproportional.<br>
><br>
> << the top 2 parties gets 40% of the seats each and the the 3rd party gets<br>
> 20% >><br>
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> D: Yes. And we never truly know the number of electors in each party. That<br>
> is A could fluctuate around 30+/-10 and so on. Isn't it proportional if the<br>
> number of electors in each group actually do reflect the numbers actually<br>
> elected as representatives.? Otherwise it is disproportional.<br>
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Well, it would be proportion in terms of seats allocated but not proportional<br>
in terms of power.<br>
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><br>
> > The result, assuming the following numbers of electors:<br>
> ><br>
> > A - 30<br>
> > B - 90<br>
> > C - 15<br>
><br>
> > Are the electors assigned in proportion to the popular support for the<br>
> > parties?<br>
><br>
><br>
> Not necessarily. Say there are 3 ethic groups as the basis of the<br>
> assigning. The number of electors in each group is below and as are the<br>
> voting proportions. So groups A, B, C are different ethnic groups within a<br>
> particular association.<br>
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<span class="correction" id="">Ahh</span>, so electors = voters ? I was confused, I though you were talking<br>
about something like the electoral college, where electors are elected<br>
by the voters.<br>
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> > A - 30 get a percentage of 24/60 votes<br>
> > B - 90 get a percentage of 24/60 votes<br>
> > C - 15 get a percentage of 12/60 votes<br>
> ><br>
> > Then reducing each down to one person<br>
> ><br>
> > A - 1 person gets 1.333% of the election rights<br>
> > B - 1 person gets 0.444% of the election rights<br>
> > C - 1 person gets 1.333% of the election rights<br>
> ><br>
> > The vote of a B is worth only 1/3rd of any other vote.<br>
><br>
> Right, this gives less voting power to electors from group A.<br>
><br>
> Did you mean group B?<br>
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<div> Yeah, right.<br>
<br>
I think the issue with something like this is that it <span class="correction" id="">crystalised</span> the power state<br>
when the country is formed. How would it work anyway, would a voter have to<br>
specify what faction they were a part of (or would it be ethnic?) and then they<br>
only get to vote for that faction?<br>
<br>
<span class="correction" id="">OTOH</span>, it does mean that the country doesn't go unstable if demographics change.<br>
For example, if a country was 40%, 40% and 20% as you suggest, then there is<br>
balance of power. However, if one faction has a higher birth rate and gets to<br>
50%, then suddenly, there could be tyranny of the majority. Having a rule that<br>
all parties will have a certain power acts as a check against that. Also, it<br>
would prevent something like a faction try to encourage mass immigration from<br>
a <span class="correction" id="">neighbouring</span> country. <br>
<br>
A similar effect can be achieved by having a super-majority requirement. If a 2/3<br>
majority is required to pass legislation, then <span class="correction" id="">tryanny</span> of the majority is <span class="correction" id="">alot</span> more<br>
difficult to pull off. Also, it means that you don't need to code ethnic <br>
discrimination into the core laws of the society.<br>
<br>
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<div style="clear: both;"><span class="correction" id="">Raphfrk</span><br>
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Interesting site<br>
"what if anyone could modify the laws"<br>
<br>
<span class="correction" id="">www</span>.<span class="correction" id="">wikocracy</span>.<span class="correction" id="">com</span></div>
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