Adam wrote: Some of your suggestions I like, but others I don't. The problem is that I'd rather be understood, even if it means I'm not completely universal in my terminology. Matt replies: Tabulation methods are one piece of the larger election process. To place ourselves within this larger electon context we need to share a common universal terminology that fits this larger context. See http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/tc_home.php?wg_abbrev=election Adam asked: What if I don't want to be consistent with that alternative? Matt answers: I am not arguing against "winning votes" to indicate a particular variation of RP or other Condorcet methods that uses winning magnitude as strength of defeat, ranks unvoted options last on the ballots, and assigns zero votes each to all equally ranked option pairs on the ballots. I am arguing for using "winning magnitude" along with margins strictly as two alternative measure of strength of defeat. Adam says: No. It is better to be un-PC, then to be un-understood. I use he/she when I think it won't make the sentence too tortured, and I use one or the other when I think it will. Good enough for me. Matt replies: Initially the unfamiliar words will need to be explained in any document where they appear. Hopefully, over time, it will become better understood and the explanation will no longer be needed.