In this case the style of debater and the merit of the argument positively correlate. In other words, the debater that is polite, clear and helpful is correct and the debaters that are impolite, confusing and derogatory are incorrect. Thank you Markus for your (unsuccesfull) efforts to help Mike improve the program that his site promotes. I have seen stubborness before but the magnititude of this stubborness (over such a trivial yet clearcut issue!) matches or exceeds the worst I can recall seeing before. Diana. > Talking of Craig Carey, can someone please explain what his most > recent diatribe was on about? And whether it's worth my while > worrying about? (Since he's thrown Markus out of his private > party -- at least that's how it appears to outsiders -- I'd > like to know whether he actually has a point or is just excellent > at posturing.)