[EM] POLL: Ballots and results

[Kristofer Munsterhjelm]

On 2024-05-20 11:33, Richard Lung wrote:

> Furthermore, the use of which voting method, to count a ballot on 
> voting methods, has already decided the best available option. But a 
> conventional count of single-member systems cannot use the best 
> available method.

Not necessarily. The EM poll would have returned Ranked Pairs as the 
winner no matter what Condorcet method had been used, as Ranked Pairs 
was the Condorcet winner.

Similarly, it was also the Approval winner. If it were true that methods 
would return themselves as winners, then we would have expected Approval 
to be the Approval winner.

In that respect, the poll *does* bring additional information. The 
choice of method does not force the outcome.

> This is in flat contradiction to the HG Wells statement, that voting 
> methods, like anything else, are capable of scientific (knowledgeable) 
> treatment. Voting method is not a matter of opinion but a matter of 
> demonstration. It is demonstrated that the vote is an ordinal vote, not 
> least by the denunciation of “wasted votes,” and the urging of 
> tactical/strategic voting.

I don't know what you're saying here. In particular I struggle to 
understand the last sentence.

-km