[EM] Internet polls & greater-evils

[Michael Garman]

Those noted “Trump-blogs”…FiveThirtyEight and the Economist :D

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2024/national/

https://economist.com/interactive/us-2024-election/trump-biden-polls

On Sun, Apr 28, 2024 at 1:01 AM Michael Ossipoff <email9648742 at gmail.com>
wrote:

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> On Sat, Apr 27, 2024 at 15:58 Michael Garman <
> michael.garman at rankthevote.us> wrote:
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>> Nice and dishonest as always, Mike! “Nearly 30%” isn’t even close to the
>> 45% or so he’s polling at in most real polls.
>>
>> I want you to be right. I really do. But you’re not, and you know you’re
>> making disingenuous arguments to support your claim.
>>
>
> I was quoting the usual media poll results. You’re getting your
> information from some Trump-blog that you follow.
>
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 28, 2024 at 12:55 AM Michael Ossipoff <email9648742 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
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>>> I’ve pointed out that you don’t need the Democrat to keep the Republican
>>> from winning, because the Republican always finishes at the BOTTOM in the
>>> output-ranking of Internet polls. …& is Condorcet loser. Every time.
>>>
>>> Some claim that’s sampling-bias. Someone here recently claimed that.
>>>
>>> But, as exemplified by the current CIVS poll “2024 presidential
>>> election”, that claim is contradicted by the Republican’s support.
>>>
>>> e.g. In the a abovementioned current poll, Trump is voted over the other
>>> candidates by nearly 30% of the voters, & is approved by nearly 30%.
>>>
>>> (That poll has “approval-line” as a candidate.)
>>>
>>> That’s close to what we hear is so in the actual voting population.
>>> Doesn’t sound to me like a biased sample.
>>>
>>> But the Republican, in that poll & always, finishes at bottom & is
>>> Condorcet loser.
>>>
>>> …& couldn’t possibly beat any progressive candidate.
>>>
>>> So vote honestly. You don’t need a lesser-evil.
>>>
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