[EM] Express any wish for democratic choice of poll-parameters. Do-able if desired.

Closed Limelike Curves closed.limelike.curves at gmail.com
Tue Apr 9 18:12:17 PDT 2024


>
> So, if anyone would like for us all to democratically choose the poll’s
> voting method, then please either make that proposal, or express that wish,
> because it’s easily do-able.
>
I'd like to suggest using rated ballots (since those can be converted to
ranked ballots anyways) and releasing the raw data, for statistical
analysis (which can involve methods other than voting algorithms—e.g. I'd
like to fit a random-intercepts POLR model to the responses).

On Tue, Apr 9, 2024 at 2:56 AM Michael Garman <michael.garman at rankthevote.us>
wrote:

> I'm intrigued by Alternative #2. Schulze works for me.
>
> On Tue, Apr 9, 2024 at 11:54 AM Kristofer Munsterhjelm <
> km_elmet at t-online.de> wrote:
>
>> On 2024-04-09 01:58, Michael Ossipoff wrote:
>> > When proposing this poll, I assumed that people would prefer the
>> > simplest & least elaborate poll-proposal.
>> >
>> > I wasn’t trying to be autocratic or favor my favorites when I suggested
>> > Schulze & Approval as the polling-methods. Schulze isn’t my favorite
>> > Condorcet anyway, but it’s popular.
>>
>> I don't have any particular opinion, as long as the method is Condorcet
>> and doesn't fail too many criteria. I think it's likely that the
>> cloneproof defeat-droppers will all give the same result. There might
>> even be a CW, which would solve the problem outright.
>>
>> I proposed Ext-Minmax more to reduce the chance of ties, since Schulze
>> has a higher tie rate than other methods and RP breaks ties in a
>> somewhat opaque manner. But again: the EM posts are public so anyone can
>> run whatever voting method they'd like on the ranked ballots and report
>> their results. If ties end up being a real problem, we can deal with it
>> later.
>>
>> I'm not an Approvalist myself, but having an Approval ballot be part of
>> the poll doesn't bother me either. In any case, I don't think it's
>> necessary to complicate matters by having a vote about what voting
>> method to use, or by inventing a meta-voting method.
>>
>> In short, let's keep it simple!
>>
>> -km
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