[EM] Poll on voting-systems, to inform voters in upcoming enactment-elections

[Richard, the VoteFair guy]

On 4/6/2024 4:12 PM, Michael Ossipoff wrote:
 > Updated list of nominations, in order of nomination:
 > ...

For this poll I nominate RCIPE, Ranked Choice Including Pairwise 
Elimination (pronounced as "recipe").

https://electowiki.org/wiki/Ranked_Choice_Including_Pairwise_Elimination

Basically it's IRV with the elimination of pairwise losing candidates 
when they occur.  (It would have yielded the correct results in 
Burlington and Alaska.)  Plus correctly counting so-called "overvotes" 
instead of dismissing them.

The referendum that will be on the Oregon November 2024 ballot is two 
sentences away from RCIPE.

Keep in mind the Oregon November referendum was passed by the Oregon 
legislature!!

It was worded with assistance from election-method experts in Oregon. 
They (other than myself) do not participate here.  They wisely did not 
accept the wording that FairVote pushed two years earlier.  (I was one 
of the people who testified against FairVote's awful wording.)

Adding a sentence that defines a "pairwise losing candidate" and another 
sentence that says to eliminate them when they occur will change the 
referendum to the RCIPE method.

That referendum wording omits any mention of overvotes.  That makes the 
wording compatible with future software that correctly counts those 
marks.  Yes I also helped make that wording correction happen.

For these reasons the Oregon referendum wording is quite significant! 
And, to repeat, it's only two sentences away from the RCIPE method.

Regarding how the poll results will be calculated:

Rather than choosing a specific method for calculating the results of 
this poll, I suggest sharing the data in a convenient format and letting 
different participants (and others) calculate results using their 
favorite vote-counting method.

For even more calculations it should be shared on r/EndFPTP AFTER the 
voting.  If done before, ballot stuffing is sure to occur.

I believe the results should be a popularity ranking (or rating) that 
ranges from "most popular" to "least popular."

I will oppose any attempt to interpret the result as having a meaningful 
single "winning" method.

I'm not optimistic that this poll will yield meaningful results.  Yet 
it's worth trying!  We'll learn a lot!

Richard Fobes
The VoteFair guy


On 4/6/2024 4:12 PM, Michael Ossipoff wrote:
> Updated list of nominations, in order of nomination:
> 
> Approval
> RP(wv)
> Schulze
> IRV
> Plurality
> MinMax(wv)
> Black
> Baldwin
> Benham
> Woodall
> Schwartz-Woodall
> Smith//Approval (of all ranked)
> Smith/:Approval (of specified)
> Margins-Sorted Approval
> Smith//DAC
> Margins-Sorted Minimum Losing Votes (equal-
> …rating, whole)
> STAR
> 
> 
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