[EM] Unhappy news regarding Burlington

[robert bristow-johnson]

i consider Hare (as credited with the notion of the Single Transferable Vote as a legal instrument) to be the seminal author even if it was multiwinner until Ware.  It's STV that makes IRV work.It's me resisting an entrenched misnomer in the history of voting reform.There are other things I do different.  Like I don't do the common "defeat matrix" layout, which makes no sense at all.  The numbers only have meaning with respect to their counterparts that are reflected about the main diagonal.  Much better to place the two numbers next to each other as I do in Table 3 of my paper.  https://drive.google.com/file/d/1jIhFQfEoxSdyRz5SqEjZotbVDx4xshwM/view There are other ways that I, an activist but not a scholar in election methods, sometimes express a different semantic than you scholars.  Yet I try to continue to be accurate.  My semantic is far better than FairVote that simply equates "RCV" with single-winner STV. I consider that to be dishonest for two reasons.Powered by Cric
 ket Wireless------ Original message------From: Richard LungDate: Sun, May 22, 2022 7:25 AMTo: Forest Simmons;Cc: robert bristow-johnson;EM;Subject:Re: [EM] Unhappy news regarding BurlingtonThomas Hare method is at-large STV/PR, a method which elects the first preferences of well over 90% of the electorate, from a far better choice of candidates, worthy of the name of a free election system... Promoted by the great pioneers, Clarence Hoag and George Hallett. Its theoretical deficiencies have been refuted in practise by over a century of reliable elections (all things being equal)."Hare method" applied to single vacancies is a misnomer.The Andrae/Hare system is capable of further rationalisation (as by a rational exclusion count, promoted by myself with binomial STV, still a multi-member system, tho capable of adaptation to the less democratic single vacancy). Regards,Richard Lung.On 22 May 2022, at 12:54 am, Forest Simmons <forest.simmons21 at gmail.com> wrote:"The mills of truth grind
  slowly ..."El sáb., 21 de may. de 2022 2:30 p. m., robert bristow-johnson <rbj at audioimagination.com> escribió:








    Despite my best efforts, the Vermont governor allowed the Burlington charter change, returning RCV to Burlington after 13 years, to become law without his signature.  Earlier, the House Government Operations committee stripped the explicit Hare method from the language of the charter change, leaving the specific RCV method up to city council, but I have no doubt it will be Hare.I warned them that some future legislature and a different governor will pass a statewide RCV into law, and because this gives Hare the leg up, someday we will be opaquely transporting 300,000 ballots from every corner of the state to Montpelier, just to know who the next governor or LG or AG or Sec of State is.  With no redundant way to independently check on an election outcome.There are some smaller victories.  The Deputy Sec of State, who is running for SoS, "gets it".  And I have connected him to Eric Maskin, the Nobel laureate and coauthor of The Fairest Vote of All.But people are all of stubbor
 n, stupid, craven, and dishonest.Licking my wounds after a brusing fight.robert


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