dcarrera at gmail.com
Fri Jul 9 23:29:47 PDT 2021
On Fri, Jul 9, 2021 at 8:56 PM Susan Simmons <suzerainsimmons at outlook.com>
> Let's take adavantage of Robert Bristow-Johnson's valuable experience when
> we approach the tricky business of writing and submitting legal language
> for a ballot initiative.
I think I found a slightly simpler formulation of River. It's based on your
"Teams" algorithm but I think strictly speaking we can do without an
explicit mention of teams or groups:
1) First, designate every candidate as a Continuing candidate.
2) On each round, the Continuing candidate with the greatest pairwise
defeat against any other candidate becomes a Defeated candidate.
3) The rounds continue until only one Continuing candidate remains, who is
You can see that I'm following RB-J's guidance of using explicit labels for
well-defined objects. Can you confirm that what I wrote above will produce
the same winner as River? If so, then here is my attempt to write the above
method into legalese similar to the examples provided by RB-J:
All elections of mayor, city councilors and school commissioners shall be
by ballot, using a system of ranked choice voting without a separate runoff
election. The chief administrative officer shall implement a ranked choice
voting protocol according to these guidelines:
(1) The ballot shall give voters the option of ranking candidates in order
(2) If a candidate receives a majority (over 50 percent) of first
preferences, that candidate is elected.
(3) If no candidate receives a majority of first preferences, the presiding
officer shall re-tabulate the ballots in rounds according to the following
(3a) A candidate “A” is said to lose against candidate “B” if more ballots
rank candidate “B” above “A” than rank “A” above “B”. The difference
between the number of ballots that rank “B” above “A” and the number that
rank “A” above “B” is said to be the loss margin of “A”.
(3b) Before the first round, every candidate is designated as a Continuing
(3c) In each round, the Continuing candidate with the greatest loss margin
against any other candidate (Continuing or not) is designated as a Defeated
candidate. The rounds shall continue until only one Continuing candidate
remains, who is then Elected.
(4) The city council may adopt additional regulations consistent with this
subsection to implement these standards.
While this is a hair longer than I would prefer (217 words) I am reluctant
to remove the redundancy.
> The definition of the method, as I envision it, will be a technical
> elaboration of your core description, while in turn the voter pamphlet
> explanation to the average voter will be a user friendly elaboration of the
> same, complete with faq's, etc.
> It would be great if somebody with the time, energy, and vision could
> start a website....
I am not the best person to lead this. Among other things, I am not a US
citizen and it might be a bit weird if a foreigner is trying to mess around
with the way an American city elects its leaders. But I could play a
> We need a really good name with a good acronymn ... ????
MMV = Maximum Majority Voting
MME = Maximum Majority Election
RHV = Ranked Head-to-Head voting
AVC voting = All Voters Count voting
ABC voting = All Ballots Count voting
EVC voting = Every Vote Counts
CEV = Count Every vote
... DDV = Demolition Derby Voting ?
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