[EM] Just to let you know ....

Jan Kok jan.kok.5y at gmail.com
Tue Feb 2 02:46:47 PST 2021


Robert Bristow-Johnson does a fantastic job refuting the usual talking
points for IRV in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hb7ACMAkc54 starting at
32:17. Well worth watching!


On Sun, Jan 31, 2021 at 8:18 PM Forest Simmons <fsimmons at pcc.edu> wrote:

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>> Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2021 14:25:55 -0500 (EST)
>> From: robert bristow-johnson <rbj at audioimagination.com>
>> To: "election-methods at electorama.com"
>>         <election-methods at electorama.com>
>> Subject: [EM] Just to let you know that I got into my first good
>>         fight...
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>> ... with Terry Bouricius, who is the very person that told me about this
>> mailing list and had posted to this list about a decade ago.
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>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hb7ACMAkc54
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>> If you scroll past the FairVote dreck to 32:17, you'll see where I make
>> the case that it failed us in Burlington Vermont in 2009.
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> Excellent, thorough, clear, explanation of why IRV failed to deliver as
> promised in Burlington in 2009 ... not a fluke, but the inevitable result
> of eliminating fall-back choices before they have a chance to serve their
> purported purpose ... convincing evidence that IRV/RCV is not good enough
> to replace FPP PLurality.
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> If only Robert Bristow-Johnson had been allowed a few more minutes he
> could have introduced some of the simple solutions to the deficiencies of
> IRV  that are well known to EM list participants.
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> Some IRV supporters excuse IRV by saying "no method's perfect." True, just
> like no internal combustion engine has 100 percent efficiency ... but that
> doesn't mean we can never improve on Henry Ford's Model T.
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>> You can also get my paper about it here:
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>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/umfyn6roysithpg/The%20Impetus%2C%20Necessity%2C%20and%20Purpose%20of%20Ranked-Choice%20Voting.pdf?dl=0
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>> And you can see a Scientific American article coauthored by Nobel
>> laureate Eric Maskin here:
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>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/jl8cwhwhdsy10gh/The%20Fairest%20Vote%20of%20All.pdf?dl=0
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>> Comments welcome.
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>> r b-j                  rbj at audioimagination.com
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>> "Imagination is more important than knowledge."
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