[EM] (6) To Kristofer and everyone: MJ best to ‘tolerate’

Kristofer Munsterhjelm km_elmet at t-online.de
Sat Sep 17 10:20:33 PDT 2016


On 09/17/2016 03:25 PM, Toby Pereira wrote:
> Arguably a problem with Majority Judgement is that most voters make
> no difference to the overall "score" for a candidate. Because it uses
> the median rather than mean, it is a fairly "robust" measure, and a
> single vote is unlikely to shift the median. People can use that to
> argue in its favour - if you like or dislike a candidate you can rate
> them highly or lowly (above or below their current median), and it
> doesn't matter whether you use the extreme ratings or not. If a
> candidate's median is C, then I can give an honest B or an
> exaggerated A - the candidate's overall median won't be affected by
> my exaggeration.
> 
> But the flipside of being resistant to strategy in this way is that
> arguably it is only this way because it's resistant to voting itself!
> It just has much more "inertia" than other systems. In normal score
> voting every vote has an effect on a candidate's average. And because
> of this there is arguably a sense of "power" for a voter. But this
> isn't the case for median voting. Well, each vote would provide some
> sort of shift that could make a difference in a tie-break, but it's
> not the same.

In a way, that's true for ranked methods as well. Suppose that X is the
Condorcet winner. A vote that ranks X in some place has no effect unless
it creates a cycle. If the contest is close, then this may easily
happen, but if it's not, then the vote has no effect except as a way of
moving the contests closer for some other ballot to change the result.

On the other hand, if you'd generalize usually ranked methods to provide
scores rather than rankings as their outputs, then a single vote might
have an effect. So too with MJ: you could have the method return not
just the median grades of the candidates, but how many votes they're
away from getting a higher grade. Any vote that grades a candidate
higher than the MJ result would decrease this counter, and any vote that
grades the candidate lower would increase it.

> One slightly crazy idea to ameliorate this would be to use a measure
> somewhere between the mean and median. The mean of a data set is the
> number that minimises the sum of the squared differences to the data
> points. The median is the number that minimises the sum of the
> absolute differences (so the differences^1). So maybe you could
> instead minimise the differences^1.1 or something. This would still
> be close to a median method but presumably each vote would make a
> difference to a candidate's "average" score using this measure. But
> then arguably it doesn't make sense to use letter grades with a
> verbal description in a system like this. It becomes about numbers
> again. It might also be difficult to calculate and hard for voters to
> understand what's going on.

A more intuitive middle road, I think, would be to use a trimmed mean.
For each candidate, take the ratings and throw out the k% lowest and
highest of them, then that candidate's score is the mean of what's left.

If you let k be 50%-1, then you get MJ (since you throw away everything
but the middle rating). If you let k be 0, then it's Range.

The problem, however, is that if you set k less than the median point,
the method can fail the majority criterion. Furthermore, the method only
gets more vulnerable to Approval-style voting the closer to Range you
get. So if MJ's strategy resistance isn't good enough to keep the voters
from all voting Approval style, then no lesser-k method will be good
enough either.


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