[EM] Discourse

Benjamin Grant benn at 4efix.com
Mon Jul 1 10:27:42 PDT 2013


Did my arrival somehow bring less civility and/or tolerance, or was this
always a rough-and-tumble place before I even got here?

I would hate to think that I brought the level of conversation down,
politeness-wise.

-Benn Grant

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Subject: Re: [CES #9014] Re: EMAV?

At 11:46 PM 6/30/2013, Clay Shentrup wrote:
>I heard there was this much simpler and more intuitive method of 
>extremely high quality, called Score Voting. Check it out.

I've learned not to expect much depth from Clay.

EMAV uses a score ballot and is based on score principles, with one
difference: it tests for majority approval, which is the one fly in the
score ointment, at least with regard to score methods that do not collect
approval information. (Runoff Score might.)

If there are multiple majorities, it uses score. If there is no majority
approval, it uses score.

It's a hybrid approval/score method. The only objection I've seen to it so
far complained about "chicken dilemma," a complaint that would apply to
score.

Voting strategy would indicate voting a sincere score ballot, with the three
constraints:

1. vote the favorite at top rating.
2. vote the least preferred at bottom rating.
3. consider the election expectation as the middle rating, and rate all
candidates who meet or exceed the election expectation at the middle rating
or higher.

With the ranks, it satisfies the desire of voters to exert significant
voting power while still expressing a first preference.

So Clay is just expressing a knee-jerk preference for score, as he has done
for years. Let us know, Clay, when you are ready to have a real
conversation. Otherwise, keep up your good work. 

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