[EM] Jameson: How we can get voting-system reform

Jameson Quinn jameson.quinn at gmail.com
Wed Jan 16 11:12:31 PST 2013


2013/1/16 Michael Ossipoff <email9648742 at gmail.com>

> 2013/1/14 Michael Ossipoff <email9648742 at gmail.com>
>
> > 2013/1/14 Michael Ossipoff <email9648742 at gmail.com>
> > >
> > > IRV will be the next voting system, and that's very much ok.
> > >
> > >
> > Michael's statement above is based on the idea that voting reform will
> > happen through a third party gaining majority power. I believe that this
> > is, frankly, a pipe dream.
> >
> > [endquote]
> >
> > Jameson thinks that the Democrat-Republican two-party system
> > represents the will of the people.
> >
> > I've addressed that matter previously, and if Jameson still holds that
> > belief, it would be pointless to say any more to him about it.
> >
>
> Jameson says:
>
> I would really, really appreciate it if you didn't put words in my mouth. I
> emphatically do not believe that, and in fact if you're going to continue
> to mischaracterize me like that, after I've previously asked you not to, I
> see no reason to continue to read your argument here.
>
> [endquote]
>
> Translation: You don't have an answer to it.
>

Alright. That's it. You are the first human ever to go in my gmail
killfile. I've specifically told you that I voted against Obama; you assume
for me that I voted for him. I have on several occasions spoken about norms
of debate, including not putting words in people's mouths; you politely
agree, then repeat the behavior. I try to hold you to your earlier word;
your reply starts with the word "translation:" and continues by trying to
fill my mouth, not just with another straw man, but with an outright
capitulation. You may still write me separately, but I will no longer be
reading (or indeed seeing) anything from you to the election methods or
election science lists. On a good day, you can be thoughtful, if never
exactly openminded enough to give a stereoscopic argument. But I've had
enough with the schoolyard taunts like the above.

Jameson
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