[EM] Conceiving a Democratic Electoral Process
fredgohlke at verizon.net
Sun Jul 22 14:22:22 PDT 2012
Good Afternoon, Juho
re: "Maybe party leadership would be forced to change party
opinions if there was such a direct channel (that could
e.g. cancel support to politicians that do not react to
the wishes of the voters)."
That's true. That's the way it works now. Parties cannot anticipate or
forestall public problems, they can only react when those problems
become such a burden on their members they can no longer be ignored. By
the time parties change their focus (if they do), the problems have
usually become insurmountable, like the crushing debt now plaguing much
of Europe (and, soon, the United States).
The fact that parties are, and can only be, reactive is one of the
reasons they are ruinous. Another reason, of course, is that they are
conduits for corruption.
re: "... but using candidates that have been nominated by
a party ... Those people might not be negotiation ortiented
but winning and strategy oriented. The negotiation process
might be for them just negotiation tactics without any
intention to change opinions or learn from others."
You describe the reason party candidates do not serve the public: They
don't care about solving public problems, they only care about winning.
Let me point out that, when they must compete with other candidates
who have a deeper concern for the people, candidates who are only
winning- and strategy-oriented will have difficulty advancing.
re: "Maybe triads work best when the participants are not
They do not have to be politicians whose stock-in-trade is deceit and
obfuscation, but they do have to interact well with their peers in order
to advance. In that sense, they might be called political persons.
re: "If we start from low/local level and parties set the
candidates, I might try giving the decision power on who
will go to the next levels to the regular voters, and not to
the candidates that may already be professional politicians."
That is certainly a possibility, although I think it unwise for several
* as described in an earlier post, those at the lower levels can
influence those at the higher levels. Each candidate achieves
selection by a known list of electors, so communication between
the electors and the candidate is straightforward. That
capability is more important than voting; it lets the electors
influence, not only the choice of candidates, but the public
issues on which the candidates will be legislating.
* the 'regular voters' do not have the time, or a practical way,
to verify a candidates' bona fides.
* at every level, the candidates have the time, the opportunity,
and the vital interest to examine their competitors carefully.
After all, they, too, are seeking to advance their candidacy.
They have reason to protect their integrity, and will seek out
any information that shows their competitors to be less fit
than themselves. The 'regular voters' do not have that kind
of incentive to be thorough.
* the 'regular voters' can be too easily swayed by the media.
Media frenzies tend to be emotional. Deliberation on issues
and examination of candidates, because they require time and
effort, tend to be intellectual.
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