[EM] Dave Ketchum: Handcounts

Paul Kislanko jpkislanko at bellsouth.net
Sat Apr 28 18:28:06 PDT 2012

That wasn't Dave who said that, it was me.


My point was that what is it you're going to count by hand? The tape printed
out by the machine I voted on? 


If I didn't hand-fill-out a ballot you've no way to know whether the ballots
you're counting by hand match what I told the machine was my vote. 


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[mailto:election-methods-bounces at lists.electorama.com] On Behalf Of Michael
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 9:55 PM
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Subject: [EM] Dave Ketchum: Handcounts




You said:


And that gets to why I think  "hand counting" is no longer useful as
"verification" - what is there to "hand count" when there are no paper
ballots except those printed by the machines that we're auditing? 




Handcounting was used even before there were voting machines!


I kid you not.


Mike Ossipoff


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