[EM] remember Toby Nixon?
robert bristow-johnson
rbj at audioimagination.com
Wed May 25 18:35:15 PDT 2011
On May 25, 2011, at 9:17 PM, fsimmons at pcc.edu wrote:
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Kristofer Munsterhjelm
>>
>> Being who I am, I would either pick Ranked Pairs or CSSD
>> (Beatpath,
>> Schulze): the former if it's more important that it can be
>> explained
>> easily, the latter if precedence is more important.
>>
being that they choose the same winner in the case that there are only
3 candidates in the cycle, i would recommend Tideman over Schulze
(sorry Marcus) for the simplicity of explanation. while getting a
Condorcet cycle is expected to be rare enough, how often in real
elections in government, would you expect a situation where RP and
CSSD will arrive at a different result?
...
> It's true that historically and even recently ranked systems have
> been adopted here and elsewhere. But
> these successes are infinitesimal in comparison to the failed
> initiatives.
>
> Why have the initiatives failed? Overwhelmingly because the voters
> have rejected the idea of ballots that
> require ranking of candidates.
"The single affirmative vote." a religious position, but it's more
honest than misrepresenting another principle: "One person, one
vote." the most effective political sign was probably "Keep Voting
Simple".
what these people say they don't wanna do is vote for *anyone* other
than their choice of candidate. it's like ranking their contingency
vote as #2 will somehow hurt their #1 choice (as it would with
Borda). then (with IRV) they find out that their #1 choice actually
hurt their #2 choice by helping the candidate they hated the most.
this is why i'm kinda mad at FairVote. by equating the Ranked Choice
with Hare/IRV, when IRV screwed up, they sullied the ranked ballot for
all other cases.
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