[EM] A conversation with an English woman about IRV

[Dave Ketchum]

Agreed that the warning about "fraudprone" is valid.  Rather than the  
labor-intensive change I see below, I would simply require the voter  
to indicate quantity of approvals.

Dave Ketchum

On May 4, 2011, at 3:14 AM, ⸘Ŭalabio‽ wrote:

> 	2011-05-04T05:48:15Z, “Matt Welland” <Matt at Kiatoa.Com>:
>
>> 	I think it is within reach for us to change this bad situation but  
>> we need the experts (you) to accept that the world isn't ready for  
>> the perfect solution and drive hard for the most achievable and  
>> pragmatic solution. Please consider getting behind Approval voting  
>> and to stop confusing the politicians and public with complicated  
>> ideas. Repeat this everywhere: Approval good, plurality bad, IRV  
>> worse.
>
> 	I know that we must focus like a laser.  I point out that plurality  
> and IRV are bad.  I advocate approval with a twist:
>
> 	The ballot like thus, is fraudprone:
>
> 		[ ] 	 Candidate 	 A
> 		[ ] 	 Candidate 	 B
> 		[ ] 	 Candidate 	 C
> 		[ ] 	 Candidate 	 D
> 		[ ] 	 Candidate 	 E
> 		[ ] 	 Candidate 	 F
> 		[ ] 	 Candidate 	 G
> 		[ ] 	 Candidate 	 H
> 		[ ] 	 Candidate 	 I
> 		[ ] 	 Candidate 	 J
> 		[ ] 	 Candidate 	 K
> 		[ ] 	 Candidate 	 L
> 		[ ] 	 Candidate 	 M
> 		[ ] 	 Candidate 	 N
> 		[ ] 	 Candidate 	 O
> 		[ ] 	 Candidate 	 P
> 		[ ] 	 Candidate 	 Q
> 		[ ] 	 Candidate 	 R
> 		[ ] 	 Candidate 	 S
> 		[ ] 	 Candidate 	 T
> 		[ ] 	 Candidate 	 U
> 		[ ] 	 Candidate 	 V
> 		[ ] 	 Candidate 	 W
> 		[ ] 	 Candidate 	 X
> 		[ ] 	 Candidate 	 Y
> 		[ ] 	 Candidate 	 Z
>
>
> 	Because a supporter of O can approval O after the ballots are cast  
> on every ballot not already approving O.  This is better:
>
> 	Instructions
>
> 	One must either approve [+] or reject [-] every candidate or the  
> ballot is considered spoiled.
>
> 	[+] 	 [-] 	 Candidate 	 A
> 	[+] 	 [-] 	 Candidate 	 B
> 	[+] 	 [-] 	 Candidate 	 C
> 	[+] 	 [-] 	 Candidate 	 D
> 	[+] 	 [-] 	 Candidate 	 E
> 	[+] 	 [-] 	 Candidate 	 F
> 	[+] 	 [-] 	 Candidate 	 G
> 	[+] 	 [-] 	 Candidate 	 H
> 	[+] 	 [-] 	 Candidate 	 I
> 	[+] 	 [-] 	 Candidate 	 J
> 	[+] 	 [-] 	 Candidate 	 K
> 	[+] 	 [-] 	 Candidate 	 L
> 	[+] 	 [-] 	 Candidate 	 M
> 	[+] 	 [-] 	 Candidate 	 N
> 	[+] 	 [-] 	 Candidate 	 O
> 	[+] 	 [-] 	 Candidate 	 P
> 	[+] 	 [-] 	 Candidate 	 Q
> 	[+] 	 [-] 	 Candidate 	 R
> 	[+] 	 [-] 	 Candidate 	 S
> 	[+] 	 [-] 	 Candidate 	 T
> 	[+] 	 [-] 	 Candidate 	 U
> 	[+] 	 [-] 	 Candidate 	 V
> 	[+] 	 [-] 	 Candidate 	 W
> 	[+] 	 [-] 	 Candidate 	 X
> 	[+] 	 [-] 	 Candidate 	 Y
> 	[+] 	 [-] 	 Candidate 	 Z
>
> 	Now the ballots are resistant to manipulation after voting.  This  
> format is human/machine-readable.
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