[EM] Remember Toby

[Jameson Quinn]

2011/6/9 Juho Laatu <juho4880 at yahoo.co.uk>

> On 9.6.2011, at 11.23, Jameson Quinn wrote:
>
> 2011/6/8 robert bristow-johnson <rbj at audioimagination.com>
>
>
>  (this is worse than IRV.)   i (and i would hope that most intelligent
>> voters) do *not* want someone else voting for me in elections.
>>
>
> And in SODA, you and anyone else who feels that way can easily make sure it
> doesn't happen. Why do you want to deny me and the people who feel like me
> the right to
>
>
> If we assume that it is ok to allow each voter to decide if he/she will
> delegate or not, there is still one smaller problem left. If the ballot
> would contain also option "I will delegate my vote to myself" then both
> paths would be in a rather similar position. Now those voters that do not
> want to delegate their vote (to others for further decisions on how the vote
> will influence the outcome of the election) have more limited choices (only
> fixed approvals) than those that delegate. Only the delegated votes may make
> further decisions based on the outcome of the first round and negotiations
> between the rounds. A voter that does not want to delegate may be interested
> in active participation in the second round too.
>

Technically speaking, SODA as defined allows this. Register as a write-in,
declare your preferences (thus voluntarily ceding your right to a secret
ballot), bullet-vote for yourself, and you are free to participate in the
second round. The system is still satisfied, because second-round voters
still have perfect information on the declared preference order of all other
second-round voters.

However, this would create logistical problems if it were too common an
option. Simply publishing thousands of declared preference orders (desirable
in the first round and mandatory in the second) would be difficult. And by
increasing the number of second-round voters, the advantage that it's easier
to ensure cooperation in a smaller group (to resolve the "near-clone
chicken") would be lost.

Ideally, then, the rules for declaring yourself as a write-in and
pre-announcing your preferences would contain some hurdle(s) just high
enough to keep people from doing it frivolously. Something like a
minimum-length candidate statement and a $25 dollar filing fee would be
plenty; heavy enough to keep thousands of people from doing it, but light
enough to be an insignificant burden to anyone who's remotely serious about
it.

Jameson
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://lists.electorama.com/pipermail/election-methods-electorama.com/attachments/20110609/ee45ca37/attachment-0004.htm>