[EM] Paper By Ron Rivest (fsimmons at pcc.edu)

Jobst Heitzig heitzig-j at web.de
Tue Nov 23 01:17:02 PST 2010


Hi Forest,

I like this very much!

But how precisely do we implement step (I)? Isn't there the problem that 
in approval there is no group strategy equilibrium if there's no sincere 
CW? What winning probabilities would the machine then assign? Maybe 
those from the "Condorcet Lottery" or those from the Rivest game?

And if there is a "polled" CW, would the machine give it probability 1 
and all others 0? If so, it seems it would win, so the whole method 
would fulfil the "voted CW" criterion.

Jobst


Am 22.11.2010 22:00, schrieb fsimmons at pcc.edu:
> As I mentioned in my last message, Designated Strategy Voting  (DSV) methods almost always fail
> monotonicity, even when the base method is monotone.  I promised that I would give a general technique for
> resolving this technique.
>
> Before I try to keep that promise, let’s think about why DSV is such an attractive idea.  I think that there are
> two main reasons.  (1) The DSV “machine” is supposed to implement near optimal strategy for the voter
> based on the information it receives.  (2) The information the machine receives is directly from the voters on
> election day, so it should be more accurate than any politically manipulated polling (dis)information available
> to the voters as a basis for forming their own strategies, should they be so inclined.
>
> With those points in mind, here is my general remedy:  each voter may submit two ballots, the first of which
> is understood to be a substitute for the polling information that would be used for strategizing in the base
> method if there were no DSV.   Then near optimal strategy (assuming the approximate validity of this
> substitute polling information) for the base method is applied to the second set of ballots to produce the
> output ballots, which are then counted as in the base method.
>
> That’s the idea.  Let’s see how it might work for a DSV version of Approval, which is an ideal candidate for
> DSV because all of the near optimal strategies assume fairly accurate polling information, and voters averse
> to strategizing miss out on the full potential benefit of their vote:
>
> Suppose that the designated strategy for all voters is to approve all alternatives with a score greater than the
> expected winning score on their score ballot.  The voters submit two score ballots, one to substitute for
> polling information, and therefore not necessarily sincere, and the other for conversion into an approval ballot
> by the designated strategy.  Then …
>
> (I)	The winning probabilities are calculated from the first set of ballots by some machine that
> implements game theoretic and/or statistical ideas.
>
> (II)	Once these approximate winning probabilities have been determined, the approval cutoffs are
> calculated for each ballot in the second set.  The alternative with the greatest approval is elected.
>
> Note that since the base method (Approval) is monotone, step (II) is monotone.  In other words, if some
> voters raise the score of the approval winner on the second set of ballots (leaving the first set of ballots
> unchanged), the winner will not change.
>
> Of course it is possible that by raising the score of the winning alternative on the first (polling) ballot, the
> winner could change.  But this possibility already exists (in hidden form) for ordinary Approval;  in that
> setting the voters can manipulate the polls just as much without destroying the reputation of Approval as a
> monotonic method.
>
>
> ----
> Election-Methods mailing list - see http://electorama.com/em for list info



More information about the Election-Methods mailing list