[EM] Proportional election method needed for the Czech Green party - Council elections
Peter Zbornik
pzbornik at gmail.com
Fri May 7 03:52:53 PDT 2010
Dear Markus Schulze,
I think got the idea of the Schulze proportional method after your
definition and Raph Frank's explanation and example.
I am however not sure that the Schulze proportional method "satisfies the
proportionality criterion for the top-down approach to create party lists".
You wrote (6.5.2010):
a. Suppose x and y are the only hopeful candidates.
Suppose N is the number of voters.
Suppose Droop proportionality for n seats requires
that x must be elected and that y must not be
elected, then we get H[A(1),...,A(n-1),x,y] > N/(n+1)
and H[A(1),...,A(n-1),y,x] < N/(n+1), and, therefore,
H[A(1),...,A(n-1),x,y] > H[A(1),...,A(n-1),y,x].
This guarantees that the Schulze proportional
ranking method satisfies the proportionality
criterion for the top-down approach to create
party lists.
If I have understood you correctly, you only show "that the Schulze
proportional ranking method satisfies the proportionality criterion for the
top-down approach to create party lists" for the special case where there
are only two hopefuls x and y.
If I am correct, then it would be helpful if you could provide a full proof,
or further explanation, which shows that "the proportionality criterion for
the top-down approach to create party lists" is satisfied for any number of
hopefuls.
Best regards
Peter Zborník
On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 1:51 PM, Markus Schulze <
markus.schulze at alumni.tu-berlin.de> wrote:
> Dear Peter Zbornik,
>
> in the scientific literature, candidates, who
> have not yet been elected, are sometimes called
> "hopeful".
>
> ***************************
>
> The Schulze proportional ranking method can be
> described as follows:
>
> Suppose place 1 to (n-1) have already been
> filled. Suppose A(i) (with i = 1,...,(n-1))
> is the candidate of place i.
>
> Suppose we want to fill the n-th place.
>
> Suppose x,y are two hopeful candidates. Then
> H[A(1),...,A(n-1),x,y] is the largest possible
> value such that the electorate can be divided
> into n+1 disjoint parts T(1),...,T(n+1) such that
>
> 1. For all i := 1,...,n: |T(i)| >= H[A(1),...,A(n-1),x,y].
> 2. For all i := 1,...,(n-1): Every voter in T(i)
> prefers candidate A(i) to candidate y.
> 3. Every voter in T(n) prefers candidate x
> to candidate y.
>
> Apply the Schulze single-winner election method
> to the matrix d[x,y] := H[A(1),...,A(n-1),x,y].
> The winner gets the n-th place.
>
> ***************************
>
> The best way to understand the Schulze proportional
> ranking method is to investigate the properties of
> H[A(1),...,A(n-1),x,y]. For example:
>
> a. Suppose x and y are the only hopeful candidates.
> Suppose N is the number of voters.
>
> Suppose Droop proportionality for n seats requires
> that x must be elected and that y must not be
> elected, then we get H[A(1),...,A(n-1),x,y] > N/(n+1)
> and H[A(1),...,A(n-1),y,x] < N/(n+1), and, therefore,
> H[A(1),...,A(n-1),x,y] > H[A(1),...,A(n-1),y,x].
>
> This guarantees that the Schulze proportional
> ranking method satisfies the proportionality
> criterion for the top-down approach to create
> party lists.
>
> b. Adding or removing another hopeful candidate z
> does not change H[A(1),...,A(n-1),x,y].
>
> c. H[A(1),...,A(n-1),x,y] is monotonic. That means:
>
> Ranking candidate x higher cannot decrease
> H[A(1),...,A(n-1),x,y]. Ranking candidate x
> lower cannot increase H[A(1),...,A(n-1),x,y].
>
> Ranking candidate y higher cannot increase
> H[A(1),...,A(n-1),x,y]. Ranking candidate y
> lower cannot decrease H[A(1),...,A(n-1),x,y].
>
> d. H[A(1),...,A(n-1),x,y] depends only on which
> candidates of {A(1),...,A(n-1),x} the individual
> voter prefers to candidate y, but it does not
> depend on the order in which this voter prefers
> these candidates to candidate y.
>
> This guarantees that my method is not needlessly
> vulnerable to Hylland free riding. In my paper
> (http://m-schulze.webhop.net/schulze2.pdf), I argue
> that other STV methods are needlessly vulnerable to
> Hylland free riding, because the result depends on
> the order in which the individual voter prefers
> strong winners. In my paper, I argue that voters,
> who understand STV well, know that it is a useful
> strategy to give candidates, who are certain of
> election, an insincerely low ranking. I argue
> that, therefore, the order in which the individual
> voter prefers strong winners doesn't contain any
> information about the opinion of this voter, but
> only information about how clever this voter is in
> identifying strong winners. Therefore, the result
> should not depend on the order in which the
> individual voter prefers strong winners.
>
> Markus Schulze
>
>
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