[EM] I need an example of Condorcet method being subjected

[Jonathan Lundell]

On Jan 22, 2010, at 10:30 AM, Terry Bouricius wrote:

> Jonathan,
> 
> Yes and no...You are correct that Arrow never uses the term 
> "monotonicity," but the concept is embodied in his second condition, 
> called "positive association."

Yes--I'm talking about terminology merely (that, and that "monotonicity" itself needs definition in a particular context).

> 
> Terry
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jonathan Lundell" <jlundell at pobox.com>
> To: <kathy.dopp at gmail.com>
> Cc: <election-methods at lists.electorama.com>
> Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 12:47 PM
> Subject: Re: [EM] I need an example of Condorcet method being subjected
> 
> 
> On Jan 22, 2010, at 5:32 AM, Kathy Dopp wrote:
> 
>> This reminds me of one of the plethora of other deliberately
>> misleading claims of Fairytale Vote, they constantly cite Arrow's
>> theorem as if that is a logical reason to support IRV when IRV fails
>> more of Arrow's Fairness criteria than even plurality voting does
>> because IRV fails the nonmonotoncity criteria in addition to the
>> spoiler criteria described above which both IRV and plurality fail.
> 
>> Arrow, Kenneth J. (1951). Social Choice and Individual Values. Wiley,
>> New York. ISBN 0-300-01364-7.  2nd ed. 1963
> 
> Monotonicity, btw, doesn't appear as a criterion in Arrow's monograph on 
> his Possibility Theorem, either.
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