[EM] Fwd: [uscv-voting_activists] Coinkie-dink? Aspen mayor-1273, Seat 1-1273 & Seat 2- 1273 ???

[Terry Bouricius]

Kathy,

As I understand it (and I am not directly involved, so may have this 
imperfectly)
1. In Aspen there were zero invalid ballots...The "spoiled" ballot 
estimation was made by an election official referring to several voters 
who made mistakes, but then automatically had their ballots bounced back 
by the voting machine for correction. In the end, I believe there were no 
invalid IRV ballots.
2. I believe the city is going to, or has, posted all of the ballot 
rankings on the Internet (as do San Francisco and Burlington) so that now 
that the random sample audit has confirmed that the scanners recorded the 
ballots correctly, anybody who wishes (including you) can double check the 
IRV tally on any spreadsheet program.
3. The city did use a non-conventional majoritarian vote-tally rule for 
the two seat council election (first and second choices counted 
simultaneously), but the mayoral election was standard.

Terry Bouricius
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kathy Dopp" <kathy.dopp at gmail.com>
To: "EM" <election-methods at lists.electorama.com>
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 7:06 PM
Subject: [EM] Fwd: [uscv-voting_activists] Coinkie-dink? Aspen 
mayor-1273,Seat 1-1273 & Seat 2- 1273 ???


FYI,

The Aspen, CO IRV election seems to be opaque.  They apparently
randomly sampled individual ballots to see that they'd been scanned
accurately, but never checked to see if the machines accurately
counted the ballots according to their IRV method.  The election
results look suspicious because three candidates had the exact same
score.

Also, the spoiled ballot rate was through the roof high.

Apparently the Aspen IRV method makes the first two counting rounds
fair, but as usual after that all the rest of the rounds are
inequitable - and this IRV election went more than 2 rounds in several
contests.


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Joyce McCloy <jmc27106 at earthlink.net>
Date: Mon, May 11, 2009 at 4:11 PM
Subject: [uscv-voting_activists] Coinkie-dink? Aspen mayor-1273, Seat
1-1273 & Seat 2- 1273 ???
To: uscv-voting_activists at mailman.xmission.com


In Aspen Colorado's 3 IRV contests, each contest was won with 1,273 votes.
How likely is it that the winner of Mayoral, Council Seat 1, and
Council Seat 2 would each get 1,273 votes apiece?
Also, note that 2 of these contests went to the 4th round, and one
went to the 3rd round?

How was this election decided?

For Mayor -
http://www.aspenpitkin.com/pdfs/depts/38/Aspen%20Mayor%20Round5.htm

CANDIDATE THIS ROUND TOTAL STATUS
Mick Ireland (4) 0 1273 ELECTED -- 4th round

For Council Seat 1 -
ttp://www.aspenpitkin.com/pdfs/depts/38/Aspen
Council Seat 1 Round 4.htm
ROUND 4 -- Jack Johnson (2) has been DEFEATED -- transferring all votes.
CANDIDATE THIS ROUND TOTAL STATUS
Derek Johnson (8) +40 1273 ELECTED -- 4th round

For Council Seat 2 -
http://www.aspenpitkin.com/pdfs/depts/38/Aspen%20Council%20Seat%202%20Ro\und3.htm
ROUND 3 -- Michael Behrendt (5) has been DEFEATED -- transferring 
allvotes.
CANDIDATE THIS ROUND TOTAL STATUS
Torre (4) +200 1273 ELECTED -- 3rd round



Joyce McCloy
www.ncvoter.net
336-794-1240

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