[EM] the 'who' and the 'what' - trying again

Dave Ketchum davek at clarityconnect.com
Tue Sep 30 12:59:43 PDT 2008


On Tue, 30 Sep 2008 11:19:52 -0400 Michael Allan wrote:
> Dave Ketchum wrote:
> 
>>When there is a cycle (3 or more in a near tie) there could be demos
>>of whatever resolution procedures please someone.
> 
> 
> I was never concerned with a final decision.  I doubt these are in
> your ballpark:

I see the Condorcet phantom as going thru the same motions as a real 
primary or general election, but letting the real elections do the 
nominating and pay no official attention to results of the phantom.
> 
>   a) Time.  Votes are shiftable.  If electorate wants to be decisive,
>      they'll pull themselves into a consensus.

That the phantom votes would be shiftable because current counts should be 
displayed during the voting/polling period does not make consensus exciting 
to me.

I mentioned cycles because their resolution formulas are a hot topic and a 
variety of examples could help thinking.
> 
>   b) Principal election as the Condorcet completion (but I think Raph
>      or Kristofer has already suggested this)
> 
> 
>>And, of course, the counting arrays must be correct and visible.
> 
> 
> They are visible in current alpha release of Votorola, but it's not
> easy to verify their correctness.  The plan is to support verification
> in the beta, by disclosing raw electoral data and providing tools for
> recounting.
> 
> 
>>>>Do need defense against one voter submitting multiple ballots - needs
>>>>thought.
>>>
> 
> Raph Frank wrote:
> 
>> > You could try pre-registration.  If you had enough money, you could
>> > send out invites to random people on the voting register...
> 
> 
>>So think, and do what is practical.
> 
> 
> My thinking is that registrants can cross-authenticate using a trust
> network.  The downside is disclosure of residential addresses in
> public.  It'll be a slow grow, and biased at first.  (Not sure it's
> practical.  Doing preliminary tests in Toronto, over the next few
> months.)
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