[EM] the 'who' and the 'what' - trying again
Dave Ketchum
davek at clarityconnect.com
Tue Sep 30 12:59:43 PDT 2008
On Tue, 30 Sep 2008 11:19:52 -0400 Michael Allan wrote:
> Dave Ketchum wrote:
>
>>When there is a cycle (3 or more in a near tie) there could be demos
>>of whatever resolution procedures please someone.
>
>
> I was never concerned with a final decision. I doubt these are in
> your ballpark:
I see the Condorcet phantom as going thru the same motions as a real
primary or general election, but letting the real elections do the
nominating and pay no official attention to results of the phantom.
>
> a) Time. Votes are shiftable. If electorate wants to be decisive,
> they'll pull themselves into a consensus.
That the phantom votes would be shiftable because current counts should be
displayed during the voting/polling period does not make consensus exciting
to me.
I mentioned cycles because their resolution formulas are a hot topic and a
variety of examples could help thinking.
>
> b) Principal election as the Condorcet completion (but I think Raph
> or Kristofer has already suggested this)
>
>
>>And, of course, the counting arrays must be correct and visible.
>
>
> They are visible in current alpha release of Votorola, but it's not
> easy to verify their correctness. The plan is to support verification
> in the beta, by disclosing raw electoral data and providing tools for
> recounting.
>
>
>>>>Do need defense against one voter submitting multiple ballots - needs
>>>>thought.
>>>
>
> Raph Frank wrote:
>
>> > You could try pre-registration. If you had enough money, you could
>> > send out invites to random people on the voting register...
>
>
>>So think, and do what is practical.
>
>
> My thinking is that registrants can cross-authenticate using a trust
> network. The downside is disclosure of residential addresses in
> public. It'll be a slow grow, and biased at first. (Not sure it's
> practical. Doing preliminary tests in Toronto, over the next few
> months.)
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