[EM] Quotas

Kristofer Munsterhjelm km-elmet at broadpark.no
Thu Oct 23 23:46:14 PDT 2008


Greg Nisbet wrote:
> You will be represented whether you like it or not...
> 
> Some countries have women's quotas, racial quotas, geographical quotas etc.
> 
> What are your thoughts on these?
> 
> I think it is generally a bad idea to impose this sort of requirement
> on the people. Manipulation of the will of the people "for their own
> good" isn't right. The government, however enlightened it considers
> itself, should not subvert the will of the people. It is important
> that the legislature be accountable and completely under the control
> of the people.
> 
> If electoral intervention bad is not a good enough argument... try this.
> 
> Who decides which groups are worthy of representation and which are
> excluded from protection?
> 
> Wouldn't this procedure elect a suboptimal candidate? There is no
> guarantee that the people's choice would be replaced by someone with
> similar issues. This would prevent representation in cases where the
> candidate mandated by the quota replaced a dissimilar candidate.
> 
> Does this help or hinder actual social change?
> 
> This is an important argument. It is not clear to me that women's
> quotas make society less sexist, racial quotas less racist, or
> geographical quotas less balkanized. Looking to the example of
> geographical quotas that we have in the Untied States, it has fostered
> regionalism, in fact. Pork barrel spending is at an all-time high and
> congressmen bicker over policies based on which state they help or
> hurt.

I'll reply to this quickly as I'm about to leave this computer for a 
while. I think that such quotas may be of use in the short term, to get 
the system on the right track, but ideally, the election method should 
be based just on the voters. Thus it would be a way of jumping from a 
local optimum to a better local optimum, if you see it in system terms, 
or of incorporating groups so that they can lift themselves up 
afterwards. Of course, this relies on very powerful checks so that those 
who get superproportional voice don't decide they like it that way and 
stop the quota from being phased out later. Also, the maintainers would 
be sufficiently wise to know when to phase it out - not too early and 
not too late.



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