[EM] Approval's worst problem isn't a problem
Michael Ossipoff
mikeo2106 at msn.com
Fri Jul 20 05:30:53 PDT 2007
The example that Rob posted
45: A>B>C
20: B>C>A
35: C>B>A
...Is similar to the worst problem example frequently brought up about
Approval. The difference is that usually B and C are very close in numbers,
and the A voters dont have a preference between B and C.
So it might be morelike:
40: A
31: B>C>A
29: C>B>A
Again B is the CW, but this time just barely. And maybe no one knows who is
CW, because its so close. Whats known is that B and C add up to a majority
that could easily defeat A--if they co-operate.
But, regrettably, co-operation between B and C is a Nash disequilibrium.
If the vote is:
A: 40
B: 31+29 = 60
C: 31+29 = 60
.then the C voters could improve the outcome for themselves by withdrawing
their vote for B, and thereby stealing the election from the CW.
The first comment that could be made is that this second example, the more
difficult one, is also more unlikely. Something more like Robs example is
much more probable. And there, there is a clear and obvious CW.
Let me suggest reasons why it isnt such a problem:
As I said before Approval always has a Nash equilibrium in which the CW wins
and no one reverses a preference.
Though co-operation isnt a Nash equilibrium, there are Nash equilibria. If
B or C wins because his own supporters vote only for him, and the other
faction vote for him too, thats a Nash equilibrium. Then, either faction
would get worse outcome by changing their vote.
If, by one of the justifications listed below, one faction publicly
announces its refusal to co-operate, that faction is doing a strategy for
the purpose of imposing a certain Nash equilibrium.
Thats common in military confrontation (e.g. mutual assured destruction)
and in the animal kingdom, and maybe in legal systems too. Often its a
dominated strategy, as in the example of mutually assured destruction. But
theyre still used, and they still work. Such strategies of deterrence are
widely used, and so they must have some success. For instance, later I
mention the example of the cat defending its own territory against another
cat.
1. Principle:
Maybe either B or C is more principled (or their voters are). If so, and if
its made clear before the election, the principled faction has a great
advantage in threat credibility. Like the cat thats defending its own yard
against an intruding cat.
If its obvious that theres going to be the co-operation/defection dilemma,
and that bilateral co-operation isnt going to happen, then it will be
obvious that the more principled faction isnt going to co-operate, and that
the other faction should co-operate.
2. Condorcet Winner:
Usually it will be pretty obvious that either B or C is very likely to be
the CW. Therefore it will be clear that someone needs that CW. And if, as in
the case of Robs example, A prefers B to C, then its also likely that A,
being closer to B than to C, wouldnt be as bad for B voters as for C
voters. All the more reason why the B voters dont need C as much as the C
voters need B.
Its sometimes pointed out that, when there are 3 candidates, the supporters
of the middle candidate have no reason to vote for anyone else.
3. What if Principle and CW conflict. I suggest that principle trumps CW or
apparent CW:
Maybe your Senator Gladhand is middle in the sense of being between the
other candidates, and has been called middle by the media, but that doesnt
mean that he is near the voter median. Even you dont really like his
policies, if youre honest with yourself. We arent voting for Gladhand,
because hes a slimeball. He therefore isnt someone you can count on to
win, and thats because of his own lack of merit.
"Dont pin your hopes on him by voting only for him. Our candidate is
someone whom you can actually trust and respect.
4. Strategies such as BF-Uncertain, BF-Certain, BF-Probability and
Better-Than-Expectation:
Some of us have pointed out that usually you wont need a mathematical or
numerical strategy method to decide for whom to vote--it will be obvious to
you whom to vote for. But maybe this classic Approval worst problem, the
co-operation/defection dilemma, is a situation where sometimes the strategy
methods could help. For instance, in Robs example, the BF strategies made
short work of the problem. Of course the B voters could have merely pointed
out that B is the clear CW, and that would ordinarily be enough.
Of course, in this kind of a situation, it isnt just a question of what
strategy for one faction to use--its a matter of what _overall_ vote
configuration makes the most sense in terms of strategy for all the
factions.
Maybe the consistent vote-totals-based strategy equilibrium could sometimes
have a role in making it more obvious which of {B,C} is the rightful winner.
By the way, DSV equilibrium would be a briefer name for consistent
vote-totals-based strategy equilibrium.
In any case, the strategy methods are there for when theyre needed.
My point so far is just that theres a whole toolbox of solutions for
Approvals worst problem.
5. But the existence of the problem requires that B & C be somewhat similar,
and so how bad would it really be for one faction if the other factions
candidate won?
Id often be inclined to vote for the other faction, because the important
thing is to keep A from winning. If the C voters want it that bad, enough to
defect and betray, then let them have it, in the interest of defeating A.
6. But if the C voters betray, how good is their chance that they count on
the help of the B voters ever again? In fact, one or both factions could
make that explicit before the election:
Were on the same side. Our candidates are nearly the same. Together we can
easily defeat A. The choice between B and C can be made by other voters
outside the B and C factions (such as maybe the A voters, or various
others). Were voting for your candidate, but we want to make it quite clear
that if you steal the election from us by lowdown betrayal, you can forget
about ever having any support from our faction.
7. So, sometimes, for any of the above reasons, you might rightfully give
in, if the indications such as CW, principle, strategies, DSV equilibrium,
etc., indicate that to be right. Or sometimes you might rightfully insist,
taking a stand based on one or more of the justifications given above.
Approvals worst problem isnt really a problem.
Mike Ossipoff
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