[EM] "IRV" in the news

[Jan Kok]

On 7/24/06, Monkey Puzzle <araucaria.araucana at gmail.com> wrote:
> Can anybody say "Straw Man"?

I don't understand what you're trying to say, M.P.

No one (on this list) is claiming this North Carolina thing is real
IRV. The NC thing is an abomination.

Regular IRV in Florida 2000 would have given us Gore, the Condorcet
Winner. The NC abomination would have given the win to Bush, the
Plurality Winner, due to the 40% rule. I'll take the CW over the PW
any day of the week.

- Jan



>
> On 21 Jul 2006 17:47:07 -0700, Brian Olson wrote:
> >
> > Holy Cloned Candidates, Batman!
> >
> > For once I wish the fairvote.org folks would step in and make them do
> > IRV and STV right.
> >
> > As soon as I find the relevant people in North Carolina, I'll have to
> > send them my version - http://bolson.org/voting/law/
> > ElectionSystemsCode.html
> >
> > On Jul 21, 2006, at 3:40 PM, Jonathan Lundell wrote:
> >
> >> At 3:28 PM -0700 7/21/06, Brian Olson wrote:
> >>> Also, I really hope this is reporter error and they're not actually
> >>> implementing the broken bizarro-IRV described in the article.
> >>
> >> Worse, actually. Check out their multi-seat variation.
> >>
> >> http://www.ncleg.net/sessions/2005/bills/house/html/h1024v5.html
> >>
> >>> As used in this section, "instant runoff voting" means a system in
> >>> which voters rank up to three of the candidates by order of
> >>> preference, first, second, or third. If the candidate with the most
> >>> first?choice votes receives the threshold of victory of the
> >>> first?choice votes, that candidate wins. If no candidate receives
> >>> the threshold of victory of first?choice votes, the two candidates
> >>> with the greatest number of first?choice votes advance to a second
> >>> round of counting. In this round, each ballot counts as a vote for
> >>> whichever of the two final candidates is ranked highest by the
> >>> voter. The candidate with the most votes in the second round wins
> >>> the election.
> >>>
> >>> The threshold of victory of first?choice votes for a partisan
> >>> primary shall be forty percent (40%) plus one vote. The threshold of
> >>> victory for a nonpartisan election and runoff or nonpartisan primary
> >>> and election shall be a majority of the vote. The threshold of
> >>> victory in a contest that normally uses nonpartisan plurality shall
> >>> be determined by the State Board with the concurrence of the county
> >>> board of elections and the local governing board.
> >>>
> >>> If more than one seat is to be filled in the same race, the voter
> >>> votes the same way as if one seat were to be filled. The counting is
> >>> the same as when one seat is to be filled, with one or two rounds as
> >>> needed, except that counting is done separately for each seat to be
> >>> filled. The first counting results in the first winner. Then the
> >>> second count proceeds without the name of the first winner. This
> >>> process results in the second winner. For each additional seat to be
> >>> filled, an additional count is done without the names of the
> >>> candidates who have already won.
> >>
> >> --
> >> /Jonathan Lundell.
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