[EM] Comments on the Yee/Bolson/et.al. pictures
raphfrk at netscape.net
raphfrk at netscape.net
Fri Dec 22 03:48:29 PST 2006
From: wds at math.temple.edu
> 3. Random tie-breaking is essential so all candiate winnign chances are always
> 100% independent of the candidate-ordering.
Definately.
> 4. I find Venzke's discovery with a 10-candidate set that "IRV tends to favor
> outsiders"
> whereas "Approval(mean-based cutoff) tends to favor centrists" very interesting.
> But it needs more investigation with
This sorta makes sense as centre squeeze is a known issue of IRV
> 5. Approval(mean based cutoff) looks pretty bad in these sims, although so far
> the
> sims have not employed correct random tiebreaking so I don't know how much of
> them to believe. But anyway, it would be interesting when that issue is
> repaired. This seems to be the possible basis for a good attack against
> Approval Voting.
The new results (on Brian Olson's site) do in fact have the random tie
break rule.
I think a zero info strategy is always going to have problems for approval.
>
> 6. However, I have proved the following theorems in the large#voters limit:
> (a) approval with randomized-oblivious thresholds chosen by voters yields
> Voronoi diagram.
> (b) approval with the following kind of strategic voters, also yield Voronoi
> diagrams:
> 1. run approval election. (Say X wins.)
> 2. cast votes using X's utility as cutoff where
> Y>X ==> approve Y.
> Y<X ==> disapprove Y.
> Y=X ==> toss a fair coin to decide to approve or disapprove Y.
> 3. go back to (1) until stabilizes on a single winner who keeps winning.
> which two theorems, I suppose, form some sort of defense for approval voting.
This means that the winner of the previous election has a 50% chance of being
approved by each voter, so only the condorcet winner can be stable ?
>
> 7. Why the heck are you simulators not trying RANGE VOTING? (With voters
> who "normalize" their range scores x via x --> (x-worstScore)/(bestScore-worstScore)
> so that the best candidate gets range vote 1, the worst 0, and the rest are
> reals
> somewhere in between? [Bolson actually had "range voting" = "social utility
> winner"
> computing twice the same thing with different names, which was both false and
> silly.]
Yeah, I said the same thing.
The source is available to add new methods.
Raphfrk
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