[EM] simplcity of range v condorcet

[Juho Laatu]

Hello Rob,

Thanks for the good and balanced postings!

BR, Juho


On Aug 14, 2005, at 03:35, Rob Lanphier wrote:

> On Sat, 2005-08-13 at 19:13 -0500, Paul Kislanko wrote:
>> "Shortest computer program" is not a criterion that any voter would 
>> care
>> about.
>>
>> "Rules for voters" and "specification for counting programs" are two
>> different things.
>
> In fairness, the specification for counting votes is something that
> voters will probably care about, and it is one of the biggest
> liabilities of Condorcet.  Part of the uphill battle for Condorcet
> advocates is to convince people that even if they don't understand
> exactly how it works, it's still a better system (the tactic I've
> usually advocated is endorsement from trusted smart people).
>
> The rules for voters are much simpler for Condorcet than under Range.
> Under Range, failure to employ some counterintuitive strategies will
> lead to a weakening of your vote (i.e. you should pretend it's
> approval).  Under Condorcet, sincerity is almost always optimal, which
> is tough to beat from a simplicity standpoint.
>
> Rob
>
>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: election-methods-electorama.com-bounces at electorama.com
>>> [mailto:election-methods-electorama.com-bounces at electorama.com
>>> ] On Behalf Of Warren Smith
>>> Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2005 6:58 PM
>>> To: election-methods-electorama.com at electorama.com
>>> Subject: [EM] simplcity of range v condorcet
>>>
>>> It was recently claimed on EM that condorcet had "simpler rules" than
>>> range.  I dispute that.  I challenge people to write computer
>>> programs to perform condorcet and range elections.   I have so
>>> far never encountered anybody who produced a shorter program
>>> for condorcet.
>>> Not even close.
>>>
>>> For any condorcet method whatever, but espcially for some of the
>>> fancier ones.
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