[EM] Margins
Kevin Venzke
stepjak at yahoo.fr
Tue Jun 22 19:43:14 PDT 2004
Dave,
--- Dave Ketchum <davek at clarityconnect.com> a écrit :
> PLEASE stick to the issue!!!
>
> Recently you claimed that WV and Margins are identical, so my last
> iteration here quoted YOUR ASSERTION that they are different, as I have
> been claiming.
I asked you to quote my assertion that they are identical, not that they are
different. I don't claim they are identical.
> As to whether counting equality matters under Margins, we seem agreed that
> it does not.
Good.
> >> WV simply uses winners' vote counts in resolving cycles.
> >> Margins requires an extra subtraction step to determine margin
> >>between winner's vote count and loser's vote count.
> >
> > Either works. The subtraction step gives the same results as though you had
> > counted half-votes.
>
> What you imply is not quite true:
> Since Margins is in the business OF MARGINS, it cares not whether
> half-votes were counted, since they do not affect this detail.
> BUT what is significant is that counting half-votes DOES affect the
> numbers used by WV, where they therefore make a difference.
When I said "either works" I was talking about Margins.
> > So you DO realize that your count rule, with a Margins "interpretation of
> > the counts," gives exactly the same winners as Margins?
>
> What you say about Margins is true - BUT talking about this side issue
> distracts from agreeing or disagreeing as to whether there is a difference
> between WV and Margins.
We agree that there is a difference. I consider that to be the side issue, though.
Kevin Venzke
stepjak at yahoo.fr
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