[EM] Margins

Kevin Venzke stepjak at yahoo.fr
Tue Jun 22 19:43:14 PDT 2004


Dave,

--- Dave Ketchum <davek at clarityconnect.com> a écrit : 
> PLEASE stick to the issue!!!
> 
> Recently you claimed that WV and Margins are identical, so my last 
> iteration here quoted YOUR ASSERTION that they are different, as I have 
> been claiming.

I asked you to quote my assertion that they are identical, not that they are
different.  I don't claim they are identical.

> As to whether counting equality matters under Margins, we seem agreed that 
> it does not.

Good.

> >>      WV simply uses winners' vote counts in resolving cycles.
> >>      Margins requires an extra subtraction step to determine margin 
> >>between winner's vote count and loser's vote count.
> > 
> > Either works.  The subtraction step gives the same results as though you had
> > counted half-votes.
> 
> What you imply is not quite true:
>       Since Margins is in the business OF MARGINS, it cares not whether 
> half-votes were counted, since they do not affect this detail.
>       BUT what is significant is that counting half-votes DOES affect the 
> numbers used by WV, where they therefore make a difference.

When I said "either works" I was talking about Margins.

> > So you DO realize that your count rule, with a Margins "interpretation of
> > the counts," gives exactly the same winners as Margins?
> 
> What you say about Margins is true - BUT talking about this side issue 
> distracts from agreeing or disagreeing as to whether there is a difference 
> between WV and Margins.

We agree that there is a difference.  I consider that to be the side issue, though.

Kevin Venzke
stepjak at yahoo.fr


	

	
		
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