[EM] To Bill Lewis Clark re: stepping-stone

Forest Simmons fsimmons at pcc.edu
Wed Jan 28 12:10:11 PST 2004


On Tue, 27 Jan 2004, Dave Ketchum wrote:

> On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 11:11:32 -0800 (PST) Forest Simmons wrote:
>
>   > On Sat, 24 Jan 2004, Dave Ketchum wrote:
>   >
>   >
>   >>IRV is not as similar to runoff as some claim - at runoff time I know the
>   >>result of the original vote; with IRV I must do all of my ranking at
> one time.
>   >>
>   >>
>   >
>   > For sincere voters, i.e. voters bound and determined to vote their
>   > favorite among the uneliminated candidates at every stage no matter the
>   > consequences ... for these dyed-in-the-wool sincere voters the two methods
>   > are essentially equivalent, except for events that might change opinions
>   > about favorites between trips to the polls.
>   >
> To decide how important that is, we have to decipher what percentage of
> the voters qualify as "sincere".
>
> And even they sometimes have to react as I suggested - look back at the
> French election we keep looking at:
>         For MOST voters the favorite to stay with was NOT Chirac.
>         For MOST voters the favorite to stay with was NOT Le Pan.
>         So the MANY voters who fit both of those descriptions had both the
> opportunity and requirement to do new thinking at runoff time.
>
> NOTE - responding as required by circumstances does not require changing
> opinions about favorites - those who voted for Chirac over Le Pen did not
> necessarily consider Chirac to be even tolerable, let alone a favorite -
> they were only doing the best they could with the hand that had been dealt.

Note that I said "... favorite among the uneliminated ..." meaning the
uneliminated candidate preferred above the other uneliminated candidates.

Forest

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