[EM] does Election-methode require e-voting?
gervase at group.force9.co.uk
Thu Nov 20 15:33:10 PST 2003
> Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 01:11:06 +0100
> From: David GLAUDE <dglaudemailing at gmx.net>
> Subject: [EM] does Election-methode require e-voting?
> How hard is it to manually "count the vote" for those method to be
> applyed? How hard is it to hand compute the result (once the vote are
> properly hand counted)?
> Do you need "computer counting and voter intend recording" for those or
> some of those methode to be practicaly applyed?
Well, the thread you inspired me into starting (Subject: Hand counting
election methods) is sort of part of the way there. What I was thinking
of was starting small [e.g. MCA (which I think is too similar to Approval
for there to be a worthwhile comment), Condorcet] and then possibly move
up to the multi-seat methods that you mention, if I have the inclination.
I've only recently realised how massive this thread could be considering
the number of election/voting methods there are. Most of the discussion
on this list has been about discussing the best/worst things of election
methods. For each of the methods mentioned, you've then got discuss how
each method can be hand counted.
Hand counting of one multi-seat method was touched upon a month ago
(Subject: Using Borda to Set an Agenda). Forest Simmons sent a post
explaining that Sequential PAV (Proportional Approval Voting) could be
used. I sent a post in response to this with an adapted version of
Sequential PAV that used whole numbers. As a result of this, I started
thinking about (Non-Sequential) PAV. When I have the time and
inclination, I will probably post a reply to the thread.
PAV is probably better than Sequential PAV for multi-seat elections. Adam
Tarr posted a message on 12th February 2002 with a very good reason why.
This post is in the middle of probably the most crucial and interesting
thread on PAV.
Unfortunately, I really haven't answered the questions. The only thing I
can give at the moment are places to start from.
>From what I can tell so far, when converting single-seat to multi-seat
election methods, all of the answers to the questions are changed. It is
usually for the worse because most of the time you have to re-count the
ballots to determine the next seat.
Also, I'll need to do a lot of reading, especially to widen my knowledge
of other election methods, in order to answer the questions. Again, this
is highly inclination dependent.
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