[EM] Re: IRV for president: 2 votes overpower 105 million
Rob LeGrand
honky1998 at yahoo.com
Mon Jul 14 09:23:02 PDT 2003
Craig Carey wrote:
> Votes Percentage
> +----------------------------------+ -------------------------
> | A 50,000,001 199,999,999 | 20.0000004 49.99999975
> | BA 49,999,999 50,000,001 | 19.9999996 12.50000025
> | CB 100,000,000 100,000,000 | 40 25
> | DBA 50,000,000 50,000,000 | 20 12.5
> +----------------------------------+ -------------------------
> Winner: A B
> Total: 250,000,000 400,000,000
Or, in the notation I prefer:
50000001:A>B=C=D
49999999:B>A>C=D
100000000:C>B>A=D
50000000:D>B>A>C
and
199999999:A>B=C=D
50000001:B>A>C=D
100000000:C>B>A=D
50000000:D>B>A>C
So adding 149999998 A>B=C=D ballots and 2 B>A>C=D ballots changes the
winner from A to B under IRV, which is certainly screwy. Craig seems to be
saying that IRV is defective because it chooses B instead of A in the
second election. I'd say that IRV is defective because it chooses A
instead of B in the first election, in which almost 80% of the voters voted
B over A. B is the Condorcet winner in the second election, so IRV
stumbles upon the correct choice in that case. Craig's example effectively
demonstrates IRV's caprice, but I think he has the wrong remedy in mind.
--
Rob LeGrand
rob at approvalvoting.org
Citizens for Approval Voting
http://www.approvalvoting.org/
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