[EM] 05/15/02 - Josh calls for more math:

[Narins, Josh]

Donald,

I did not request more math from the list, I asked for more math from you.

I had gotten the impression that your contention that much of what was going
on on this list (which you so politely refer to as "junk") was based on some
provable principle, a reproducible and eternal result, grounded in
mathetmatics.

Instead, I submit, it appears that you have no interest other than
denigrating the ideas presented here. I'm not sure why, I no longer care.
You can take your incessant "junk" label and throw it, and yourself, in the
trash.

I will no longer give you any benefit of the doubt, since your entire
argument is based on a subjective notion which, among the people I know, is
entirely inapplicable. Everyone I know can decide whether or not they want
to make "lower choices" and, in general, what those secondary choices mean.

-Josh



-----Original Message-----
From: Donald Davison [mailto:donald at mich.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 7:44 AM
To: [EM]
Subject: [EM] 05/15/02 - Josh calls for more math:


05/15/02 - Josh calls for more math:

Josh Narins worte: "Good Day, Mr Davison, unless I see some math from you."

   Josh is calling for more math on this list.
   He has got his priorities `ass-backwards'.

This list does not need more math, it needs less math and more common
sense.  Most of the math on this list is using the garbage of the lower
choices for input data.

The lower choices are garbage for the following reasons:

 * Most of the lower choices are not informed choices.
 * Lower choices are used to harm earlier choices by helping some other
candidate.
 * The lower choices are not netural.  Most of them are for the lower
candidates.
 * Most choices are not made for the candidate, but instead the choices are
made for the party of the candidate.  Change the candidate of the party to
some unknown and the voter will vote for him anyway.

Josh needs to reassess his priorities.



Regards,
   Donald Davison, host of New Democracy at http://www.mich.com/~donald
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