# [EM] 12/22/02 - Markus Schulze Wrote and Wrote again:

Elisabeth Varin/Stephane Rouillon stephane.rouillon at sympatico.ca
Tue Dec 24 10:27:47 PST 2002

```The only problem I see with this, Markus, is that a serious voter
that would listen to all candidates ideas would have to know
about 50 candidates if there is 10 parties and 5 seats per district.
Sampling the electorate should be sufficient to allow only one
party representative per district.

Steph.

Markus Schulze wrote :

>
> you asked James Gilmour (24 Dec 2002):
> > Please elaborate - don't you see it as a problem that the vast
> > majority of Australian voters essentially vote in a closed party
> > list style? What would you change to solve this problem?
>
> In Australia, the voter has either to cast an X-vote for one and
> only one party or to rank all candidates. I suggest that a voter
> should be able to rank parties and candidates and that the used
> STV method should be able to handle equal rankings.
>
> ******
>
> Example: Suppose that there are 3 parties with 5 candidates each.
> Suppose that a given voter votes as follows.
>
>  Party A (5)
>  Candidate A1 ()
>  Candidate A2 (7)
>  Candidate A3 ()
>  Candidate A4 (4)
>  Candidate A5 ()
>  Party B (7)
>  Candidate B1 (8)
>  Candidate B2 (2)
>  Candidate B3 (1)
>  Candidate B4 ()
>  Candidate B5 ()
>  Party C ()
>  Candidate C1 (3)
>  Candidate C2 ()
>  Candidate C3 (3)
>  Candidate C4 ()
>  Candidate C5 (6)
>
> Then this should be interpreted as follows:
>
>  Candidate A1 (5)
>  Candidate A2 (7)
>  Candidate A3 (5)
>  Candidate A4 (4)
>  Candidate A5 (5)
>  Candidate B1 (8)
>  Candidate B2 (2)
>  Candidate B3 (1)
>  Candidate B4 (7)
>  Candidate B5 (7)
>  Candidate C1 (3)
>  Candidate C2 (9)
>  Candidate C3 (3)
>  Candidate C4 (9)
>  Candidate C5 (6)
>
> ******
>
> By the way: Party boxes are not a requirement for large districts.
> The Cork City Council was elected in a single 21-seat district --
> without party boxes. And in 1925, the Irish Senate was elected
> in a single 19-seat district -- again without party boxes.
>
> Markus Schulze
>
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