[EM] IRV inconsistency

[Forest Simmons]

On Wed, 16 May 2001, Martin Harper wrote:

> Forest Simmons wrote:
> 
> > 
> > On Wed, 16 May 2001, Markus Schulze wrote:
> >> However, also the pairwise matrix doesn't say how many BAC votes there are.
> >> You seem to believe that the voters want to know how many BAC votes there
> >> are only when IRV is used but not when a pairwise method is used.
> >> 
> >> Markus Schulze
> > 
> > The pairwise matrix would be sufficient for the critique of IRV as well.
> 
> Sufficient for the critique of IRV from the standpoint of the Condorcet 
> Criterion. Insufficient for the critique of IRV from the standpoint of 
> the Majority Criterion, which would require first place votes in addition.
> 

Very true.

And even the all the ballot information together wouldn't reveal the
insincere voting necessary to get the Condorcet Winner in case it did.

Forest