Responses to some of Forest's ideas

[Bart Ingles]

DEMOREP1 at aol.com wrote:
> 
> In a message dated 7/29/01 12:20:39 AM, you wrote:
> 
> <<DEMOREP1 at aol.com wrote:
> >
> >
> > See *consent of the governed* in the second paragraph of the U.S.A.
> > Declaration of Independence.
> >
> > Democracy means majority rule --- as far as elections are concerned.
> 
> Mr. Ingles wrote-
> 
> Says who?  Maybe as far as two-candidate elections are concerned.  The
> phrase 'majority rule' itself seems historically recent.>>
> ---
> D- Says me and many prior folks.
> 
> See the many references to *majority* in The Second Treatise of Government by
> John Locke (1690).
> 
> See Federalist No. 10 (1787-1788).
> 
> Democracy (majority rule) is compared to monarchy/ oligarchy (minority rule
> by 1/ more than 1, but less than a majority) --- nothing new in 7,000 years
> of political math.
> 
> Consensus and unanimity are special utopian dream forms of 100 percent
> majorities.
> 
> The word *Democracy* has, of course, taken on a whole lot of meanings to
> different folks --- justice, *good* government, etc., etc.


...As has the word *majority*, evidently.  I doubt that John Locke was
referring 
to 50% + 1 in a 3-way race.



> See Art. IV, Sec. 4 of the U.S.A. Constitution -
> 
> The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican
> Form of Government, ***
> 
> The *Republican Form* in 1787 obviously did NOT mean a monarchy / oligarchy
> form of government in the States -- leaving -- guess what --  the *Democracy*
> form ONLY.