[EM] Unranked IRV versus Approval - divergent winners exist!

[Tom Ruen]

I must be doing something right if I'm getting criticized from both sides!
:)

I still don't think the IRV-supporters are the enemy.

Plurality w/o runoff is enemy #1.

----- Original Message -----
From: "MIKE OSSIPOFF" <nkklrp at hotmail.com>
To: <election-methods-list at eskimo.com>
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2001 3:17 AM
Subject: Re: [EM] Unranked IRV versus Approval - divergent winners exist!


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> Ok, there's no getting through to Tom or Don on this issue.
>
> What this shows is that, with so many ways to count ranked ballots,
> lots of people will be confused about it, and there's a good chance
> that we'll end up with a rank-count, IRV in particular, that's nowhere
> near as good as Approval.
>
> That's why, if IRVies will be involved in a particular choice of
> voting systems for some jurisdiction, Approval is most likely a better
> proposal than Condorcet or any rank method, because the IRVies will
> get their meritless rank-count rule enacted if we don't offer alternatives
> to rank-balloting.
>
> Approval or CR, that is. Let's do polling, asking people which of those
> they'd be more inclined to vote "yes" on, in an enactment initiative.
>
> And, where IRVies are involved, let's not try to enact a good rank
> method.
>
> Mike Ossipoff
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>
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