[EM] Voting methods & utility
Bart Ingles
bartman at netgate.net
Tue Nov 14 23:18:53 PST 2000
LAYTON Craig wrote:
>
> For some time, I've been seeing comments relating to maximising utility in
> voting systems. Very rarely have these comments had anything to do with
> utility/utilitarianism. As a committed utilitarian, I would like to clear a
> few things up;
>
> The preferred candidate (whichever way you determine who this is) is not
> necessarily the best candidate. It is impossible to design a voting system
> to select the best candidate.
Agreed -- the goal should be to reflect the will of the voters.
> Systems like Borda, cardinal ranking &c. are NOT utilitarian. They have
> nothing to do with utilitarianism. There might be a crude 'preference
> satisfaction = utility' argument, but this isn't really adequate. These
> voting systems normalise preferences (so that everyone's top & bottom score
> is the same, no matter how strongly they feel about the candidates). Also,
> the consequences of a non-majoritarian candidate winning are severe enough
> to mitigate any utility advantage these systems might have.
Also agreed -- no voting system can reflect true aggregate utility and
still be fair. The reason is that there has to be some equality in
voting power between voters.
The second point -- that a non-majoritarian candidate is undesirable --
is a good reason not to collect data unless you're sure you can use it
fairly & accurately to reflect the will of the voters. Systems using
rankings are constrained by the need for self-consistency, using some
standard such as Condorcet's or Borda-symmetry. The only way to "bend"
the results to make them better reflect strength of preference is to
rely on strategy.
> There is perhaps some argument about, say, weighting voting systems to
> eliminate the most disliked candidates while maintaining majoritarianism.
> This might be utilitarian, as there are strong reasons to suggest that
> avoiding disutility should be prioritised over maximising utility.
> But, again, this only works well when voters are voting sincerely.
No disagreement here either.
> Elected representatives do not always make decisions in such a way as to
> maximise utility. There is no reason to suggest that changing the way these
> representatives are elected will change the way in which they make
> decisions. The task of utilitarians (and indeed most political
> philosophers) is to challenge the decisions that representatives make. How
> those representatives get to power does not significantly affect
> utilitarianism, unless the system that got them there causes some
> significant disharmony (or the reverse). There are few proposed systems
> that do this (perhaps non-majoritarian systems are the only ones).
So what you're saying is that 'utilitarianism' will never be used in its
correct context on this list. In which case I don't see much harm in
using the term 'utility' in a way that it has frequently been used (or
misused) in connection with voting systems.
-B
> I would ask people to think twice about referring to utilitarianism / social
> utility &c. when discussing voting systems.
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