[EM] A 48% Group elects 60% of the Droop Members
David Catchpole
s349436 at student.uq.edu.au
Sun Nov 14 22:49:10 PST 1999
That's Droop with the addition of districts- remember that Hare can do the
same! My request is for you to find an example for Droop with only one
undivided district.
On Sun, 14 Nov 1999, Donald E Davison wrote:
> Greetings,
>
> The following is an example of a 48% group electing a majority of the
> Droop members.
>
> * 100 members are to be elected in 25 districts - 4 member districts.
>
> * 1000 voters per district - 25,000 total votes in election.
>
> * Droop Quota is 200 (1000/5)
HQ=250
>
> * The 48% group has 12,000 total votes - distributed as follows:
>
> The group has 600 votes in each of 10 districts.
> In which they are able to elect 3 members per district.
>
> And 400 votes in each of 15 districts.
> In which they are able to elect 2 members per district
>
> * Total members elected by the 48% group is as follows:
>
> 10 districts electing 3 members each equals 30 members elected.
> 15 districts electing 2 members each equals 30 members elected.
> -----
> Total number of members elected by the 48% group: 60
> (60 of 100 is 60%)
>
> It is possible for a 48% group to elect 60% of the members.
> In a real election the numbers will not fall this even and the 48%
> group most likely will elect less, like 54% of the members, but still a
> majority.
>
> Had the count of this election used the Hare Quota, and the 48% group
> attempted to lower their votes on their candidates in order to elect more
> members than their just representation, we could expect that the number of
> members now elected by the 48% group would be less than using the Droop. I
> say less because the group will not be able to lower votes with
> mathematical precision. But, when the Droop Quota is imposed on the STV
> election method, by agreement of the Droop supporters, then the cheating
> can be preformed with mathematical precision, also by agreement of the
> Droop supporters.
> No matter which quota an election uses, for every member the 48% group
> elects over 48 members, some other group will lose a member.
>
> I claim that the real reason the Droop Quota has been made part of STV
> is so that the largest faction can elect a majority, even if that faction
> has less than a majority of the popular vote.
> The Droop is corruption - corruption by agreement.
>
> Note: I must point out that the main reason the 48% is able to elect 60% of
> the members in this example is because of the small districts. Had this
> election been held in One-Area of 100 seats, the 48% group would only been
> able to elect 48 members - using Hare or Droop, but the Droop makes it
> easier for the largest group to elect more members in small districts.
>
> Regards,
> Donald
>
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