MOAV "criterion"?
DEMOREP1 at aol.com
DEMOREP1 at aol.com
Fri Feb 14 20:56:07 PST 1997
Mr. Eppley wrote:
Demorep hasn't shown he understands majority rule. Demorep won't post a
clear definition of his MOAV criterion, which, I presume, is his
interpretation of majority rule.
D-- Definition of MOAV (again for Mr. Eppley)-- In a yes/no vote, if an
executive or judicial office candidate get can a majority yes vote of all the
voters, then he/she gets a majority of all votes (MOAV).
Example of MOAV- 100 voters
Yes No
S 56 41
T 42 35
U 40 55
V 35 45
W 52 42
X 47 46
Y 55 42
Z 51 49
S, W, Y and Z are acceptable by a majority of all the voters. Such 4
candidates would then go head to head.
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D wrote earlier-
The average voter has no interest in what any single winner method is called,
such as the XX//YY//ZZ method, but has some minimal comprehension,
notwithstanding terrible public schools, of majority rule (as compared to
plurality and Condorcet's distinct possibility of producing winners having
support that is a little more than plurality (roughly in the 37-45 percent of
all voters range due to truncated votes) but a little less than a majority of
all the voters- i.e. beating each other candidate by at least 51 of 100
votes). For every Nader 37-45 percent winner it is just as likely to get a
37-45 percent Gingrich winner with plain Condorcet.
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Mr. Eppley wrote:
Demorep now seems to be claiming that a candidate must receive a majority *in
every pairing* as well as a majority of Yes votes in order to satisfy MOAV.
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D- Mr. Eppley is in error again. Continuing the above S, W, Y and Z example.
In their pairings they do not need to get a majority of all the votes (51) to
continue. Relative majorities will have to do-- such as W v. Z might be 49 v.
47 so W would win such pairing.
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Mr. Eppley wrote:
Here's an example which Demorep would probably claim points out some majority
rule violation of Condorcet:
20: A(B=C)
15: ABC
16: BAC
16: BCA
23: CBA
10: C(B=A)
Since there is no yes/no vote listed, I cannot tell who gets a MOAV and thus
cannot tell who goes on to have head to head pairings.
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