[EM] Student government - what voting system to recommend?
Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
abd at lomaxdesign.com
Sat Apr 28 09:15:26 PDT 2007
At 03:15 PM 4/27/2007, Howard Swerdfeger wrote:
> > Warren has published his code and has invited others to vary how it
> > is used, or to substitute their own functions. And I'm quite sure
> > he'd be happy to put up, on the Range site, anything reasonable. He
> > really is looking for optimum simulations, not merely simulations
> > that show Range as being better!
>
>I never tried to question his Intent. Just stating that I don't
>understand all of what he is doing .
>do you have a link where I could find his code?
He's not necessarily always easy to follow. But he tries to be clear.
I found code for one of the experiments on the RV list, but, if you
are interested in confirming or expanding or correcting his work, I
would suggest that you join and ask about it on the Range Voting
list. I can assure you that you will be welcomed and supported in that.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RangeVoting/
Okay, I searched the yahoogroup for "simulation code" and found a
fairly recent message describing it and giving the URL to the code:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RangeVoting/message/3498
I have suggested that the Center for Range Voting split into two
distinct activities, one which would probably keep the name CRV but
which would essentially be a Political Action Committee promoting
specific reforms (though I expect it will remain far more open than
such equivalents as the Center for Voting and Democracy, which is
nailed firmly to IRV), and another organization dedicated to election
method and related research. The reason is that it is common that the
research of Warren and others is commonly discounted because of the
advocacy. That is, because Warren and some of the others advocate
Range Voting, it is assumed that they have cooked the research
(consciously or unconsciously). Note that such an assumption, while
prudent as a hypothesis, could result in disqualifying any research
that has *led* to advocacy rather than proceeding from it. In
Warren's case, his research clearly preceded his advocacy, he got
fired up about Range as a result of studying it and other methods. He
happens to have also invented what I consider to be superior to
Range, but it is not, technically, an election method in that it does
not necessarily determine, simply from the ballots, all the winners.
It's deliberative, creating a class of electors (who are usually
assumed to be candidates, Warren actually refers to this, but they
might even be prohibited from being candidates) who negotiate and
vote publicly to create a winner or winners.
We *do* have the Range Voting Free Association,
http://rv.beyondpolitics.org, which is an *interest* group that does
not have and will not take any advocacy positions *as a group*. It is
an FA/DP organization and all interested in Range Voting (even if
only to oppose it) are invited to join. Right now, all that means is
registering on the wiki.... It will never mean that you've consented
to more than an occasional mail. So far, no mails have been sent to
all registered members. Some day....
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