[EM] MultiGroup voting method
Juho
juho4880 at yahoo.co.uk
Fri Apr 6 22:52:39 PDT 2007
On Apr 7, 2007, at 0:34 , James Gilmour wrote:
> Juho> Sent: 06 April 2007 22:25
>> Also, to give more power directly to the voters, while maintaining an
>> easy way to vote, easy understanding of what the candidates stand
>> for, and with accountability.
>
> If that is what you want, why not just use STV-PR?
> Then there would be no party-controlled voting at all.
> James Gilmour
I like STV-PR but its properties are somewhat different.
"to give more power directly to the voters"
- STV-PR and MultiGroup are both reasonably strong here (Asset Voting
gives part of the power to the (trusted) candidates)
- Direct democracy and "continuous elections" are stronger than
"representative democracy with periodic elections"
- In STV-PR the votes are very flexible and expressive and this might
give them some additional power in some situations (to be defined)
"easy way to vote"
- MultiGroup (vanilla version) uses just one "bullet vote", STV-PR
requires more
- ease of voting is good if one wants to maintain wide involvement
among the citizens and direct individual level decision making among
the voters in public elections
"understanding of what the candidates stand for"
- In MultiGroup the candidates clearly state their position (or at
least some key points of it)
- In STV-PR voters need to follow and then form their own opinion on
all major candidates to understand their targets
- The clear announcement of targets in MultiGroup makes it harder for
the candidate to give different kind of promises to different audiences
"accountability"
- MultiGroup nails down the key promises for the next election period
(voters will know what they vote and candidates know and have to
remember what they promise to work for)
"party-controlled voting"
- I don't oppose the party system as such. I rather think it is a key
component and basic tool of democracy to offer people the right to
organize themselves and to influence in the development of their
society.
- The fact that in some "markets" the parties behave badly or have
achieved (or appear to have) more power than the some citizens would
like them to have is a problem but maybe not a reason to abandon the
party structure altogether
- There can be too much control, there can be control as intended in
a representative democracy
In one of my recent emails I wrote: I think STV is good for elections
where we don't want to emphasize the grouping of candidates to
"separate parties" and for elections where the candidates are quite
well known by the voters (their viewpoints are well known).
When compared to that MultiGroup may be well suited for large scale
elections for general public when we want to present the targets of
the candidates clearly to them, and to influence the development of
the political parties by giving them clear (simplified) guidance.
STV-PR is maybe at its best in small elections where the candidates
are well known. In large systems I'd expect some kind of groupings
and associations to emerge and be part of the management structure
even if the voting method would not formally recognize them. STV-PR
is possible and works also in large systems but I haven't really
carefully thought what the benefits of keeping the voting method
"party-free" while still expecting some interest groups (parties) to
be present in the background would be.
The MultiGroup method is also direct evolution from some existing
multi-party systems and therefore possibly a reasonably acceptable
way forward.
Juho
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