[EM] Americans for Approval Voting
Dave Ketchum
davek at clarityconnect.com
Sat Dec 21 10:26:18 PST 2002
Sorry Craig, but seems like you are asking a useless question - what makes
you dream that Approval voting will result in candidates turning up in
wholesale quantities?
True that, while it does not give voters the power of Condorcet, Approval
is a bit better than Plurality, for voters can vote for more than one
candidate, avoiding the spoiler problem, but:
Does not complicate ballot papers if, as such are usually formatted,
voters simply checked a single box in Plurality - and can check multiple
boxes in Approval.
A race is still to elect a single mayor, governor, or dog catcher.
Candidate still needs something, usually campaigning, to get winning
votes.
There still is likely to be a limit on quantity of candidates. New
York State often has a theoretical limit of 20 (candidate must get
signatures from 5% of the voters eligible to sign). Practical limit is
lower than theoretical for: some refuse to sign any, some refuse to sign
yours, another candidate got this voter's signature already.
Dave Ketchum
On Sun, 22 Dec 2002 05:14:06 +1300 Craig Carey wrote:
> At 02\12\19 16:55 -0800 Thursday, Rob LeGrand wrote:
> >Howdy all,
> >
> >The Americans for Approval Voting website, authored by Rock Howard, is now
> >up at http://www.approvalvoting.com/ . Check it out and tell us what you
> >think!
> >
> >--
> >Rob LeGrand
> >honky98 at aggies.org
> >http://www.aggies.org/honky98/
> >
>
>
> Do let us know, Honkie (or Rock), when Approval will be out of the dark
> moist
> mushroom growing rooms and into the minds fo the American public.
>
> Would Rock flinch or pause, if asked to put online an artists depiction of
> an Approval ballot paper that shows what the paper looks like when there are
> at least 34 (or 25 or more) candidates competing ?.
>
> Last time I checked your website, Mr Legrand, there was no example showing
> what an Approval ballot paper looked like in an election where very many
> candidates were standing for a single position or seat.
>
> My hypothesis is that Rocky has a darkness-preferring movement that
> would not
> show a simple ballot paper (e.g. an artists rendition of an Approval ballot
> paper).
>
> Can readers here supply a handdrawn picture (implying that supporting the
> Approval campaign would be a ghastly mistake) to Rock for inclusion in the
> new 'deemed by IRS to be charitable' website ?.
>
> What are the criteria that will allow readers of this mailing list to check
> that the whatever-it-was movement, will be a success ?.
>
> If the contest is not close, and voters lack good information on the
> opinions or votes of others in the election, and if there are many/enough
> candidates, then Approval would be over some limit that politicians would
> set, saying how much allocating of power, is unjustly large.
>
> Certainly when the topic is total ignorance for the public, then it can be
> very worse with the CVD, partly since they have many comments for various
> cities.
>
>
> G. A. Craig Carey
>
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